Re: [OSM-talk] Some guidelines on Africover data?

2010-03-30 Thread Joseph Reeves
Great, thanks Grant,

Good to see that my line of thinking was pretty much the same as
yours; I just wanted to double check on consensus before inadvertently
wrecking anything.

Cheers, Joseph



On 30 March 2010 13:25, Grant Slater  wrote:
> Hi Joseph,
>
> I've been cleaning up some of the Africover, mostly bound within the
> DRC borders.
>
> The import seems to have been fairly messy.
>
> 
>> There is no source tag on the data that exists, only an AUTO_ID tag;
>> an example way can be seen in 37424303 [3], although many more exist.
>> I'm guessing that the AUTO_ID refers to a Africover reference system
>> that has survived the import, whilst OSM specific tags need to be
>> applied.
>>
>> Is there any reference available for telling what such ways should be
>> tagged as? I'm worried that some may be rivers, in some cases possible
>> dupes [4]. With a list to refer to, could ways such as this be tagged
>> as highway:road or waterway:river, source:Africover when found?
>> Leaving the AUTO_IDs would seem to be a good idea for now.
>>
>
> I generally replace the AUTO_ID with a highway = road. The AUTO_ID is
> now worthless data to have in the OSM system, we have moved on from
> the original import. I'd say add source=Africover on the ways if you
> like. Best to strip it on nodes. The amount of GPS (GPX) data coverage
> is improving, especially in Southern Africa, so always compare. I
> always give existing data preference over Africover. If the Africover
> data feels VERY wrong, I think it is best to remove it rather than
> disrupt future (local) mapping efforts.
>
> Some of the ways also seem to be railways. Many Central & East African
> railways are being revived due to renewed interest in Africa's mineral
> wealth and Chinese interest.
>
> I tag with brain activated :-) Even Landsat helps. Some major African
> cities do have Yahoo! aerial imagery.
>
> Regards
>  Grant
>

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Re: [OSM-talk] Some guidelines on Africover data?

2010-03-30 Thread Grant Slater
Hi Joseph,

I've been cleaning up some of the Africover, mostly bound within the
DRC borders.

The import seems to have been fairly messy.


> There is no source tag on the data that exists, only an AUTO_ID tag;
> an example way can be seen in 37424303 [3], although many more exist.
> I'm guessing that the AUTO_ID refers to a Africover reference system
> that has survived the import, whilst OSM specific tags need to be
> applied.
>
> Is there any reference available for telling what such ways should be
> tagged as? I'm worried that some may be rivers, in some cases possible
> dupes [4]. With a list to refer to, could ways such as this be tagged
> as highway:road or waterway:river, source:Africover when found?
> Leaving the AUTO_IDs would seem to be a good idea for now.
>

I generally replace the AUTO_ID with a highway = road. The AUTO_ID is
now worthless data to have in the OSM system, we have moved on from
the original import. I'd say add source=Africover on the ways if you
like. Best to strip it on nodes. The amount of GPS (GPX) data coverage
is improving, especially in Southern Africa, so always compare. I
always give existing data preference over Africover. If the Africover
data feels VERY wrong, I think it is best to remove it rather than
disrupt future (local) mapping efforts.

Some of the ways also seem to be railways. Many Central & East African
railways are being revived due to renewed interest in Africa's mineral
wealth and Chinese interest.

I tag with brain activated :-) Even Landsat helps. Some major African
cities do have Yahoo! aerial imagery.

Regards
 Grant

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[OSM-talk] Some guidelines on Africover data?

2010-03-29 Thread Joseph Reeves
Dear all, I would have emailed Robert Soden directly about this, but I
read that he's in Haiti at the moment and probably has enough to keep
himself occupied already. As such I thought I'd email the list.

I've read on the wiki that the Africover import for Tanzania is
complete [1], but I have seen a few areas that look as if the data has
been imported, but without any OSM tags. See Tabora, for example [2].
There is no source tag on the data that exists, only an AUTO_ID tag;
an example way can be seen in 37424303 [3], although many more exist.
I'm guessing that the AUTO_ID refers to a Africover reference system
that has survived the import, whilst OSM specific tags need to be
applied.

Is there any reference available for telling what such ways should be
tagged as? I'm worried that some may be rivers, in some cases possible
dupes [4]. With a list to refer to, could ways such as this be tagged
as highway:road or waterway:river, source:Africover when found?
Leaving the AUTO_IDs would seem to be a good idea for now.

I'm keen to help improve OSM's Africa coverage and this seems like a
simple way of helping out, if it's the appropriate way of doing so.

Cheers, Joseph



[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Africover
[2] http://osm.org/go/l2pzYzJ
[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/37424303
[4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/37423971

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