[OSM-talk] Split into map and data projects, was: Re: Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of thecurrent maps

2008-07-29 Thread Henry Loenwind
Someone wrote:
 let's keep
 the focus on filling up the database

 I'll give 100% support to the 20%, the 80% should wait some more or
 better still try to do some mapping, somewhere, anywhere!

That sums it up rather nicely. OSM is only about collecting data, people 
that are interested in using the data are not really welcome very much.

So I propose to start a new project, that is about using OSM data only. 
Transfer the current renderers and maps to the new project, and maybe it 
would be possible there to et up a server farm, so people interested in 
different rendering styles can concentrate on the rendering styles and 
not on the problem of serving them.

Anyone interested? That new project would first need people that have 
time to organize it (I really don't have), and people to raise or 
provide funding.

cu
Henry

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Re: [OSM-talk] Split into map and data projects, was: Re: Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of thecurrent maps

2008-07-29 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Henry Loenwind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Someone wrote:
 let's keep
 the focus on filling up the database

 I'll give 100% support to the 20%, the 80% should wait some more or
 better still try to do some mapping, somewhere, anywhere!

 That sums it up rather nicely. OSM is only about collecting data, people
 that are interested in using the data are not really welcome very much.


I wouldn't say that was true.
Just that what few project resources there are should be concentrated
on helping collection and distribution of the data rather than
creating and running those end uses.



 So I propose to start a new project, that is about using OSM data only.
 Transfer the current renderers and maps to the new project, and maybe it
 would be possible there to et up a server farm, so people interested in
 different rendering styles can concentrate on the rendering styles and
 not on the problem of serving them.

 Anyone interested? That new project would first need people that have
 time to organize it (I really don't have), and people to raise or
 provide funding.



That's not so much a project as a service. And a fairly pricey one
too. You'll need quite a lot of hardware at your disposal and a silly
amount of bandwidth if you get remotely popular.
Cyclemap bandwidth is in the order of hundreds of gigabytes already,
and rising fast. You're talking on-demand which means you'll need
access to a lot of CPUs.

Dave

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