[OSM-talk] Tag for dry river

2009-04-18 Thread S Knox
Hi,

I've just been doing some mapping in South East Spain (very near Europe's only 
desert in fact in Tabernas, Almeria), where there are a lot of riverbeds that 
only become rivers very occasionally after heavy rain. An alternate term would 
be wadi I suppose. A very brief glance around the area shows some normal 
rivers, but do we  have a tag for dry or seasonal rivers, which could be 
rendered using the standard blue dashed line on the map? If not then I'll 
propose one. Quite useful as clearly for the majority of the time these rivers 
are walkable and even drivable, although I imagine not all have clear paths  or 
tracks.

Regards
Steve



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Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for dry river

2009-04-18 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Sábado, 18 de Abril de 2009, S Knox escribió:
 I've just been doing some mapping in South East Spain (very near Europe's
 only desert in fact in Tabernas, Almeria), where there are a lot of
 riverbeds that only become rivers very occasionally after heavy rain.

Yeah, ramblas: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambla

 [...] but do we  have a tag for dry or seasonal rivers, which could be 
 rendered using the standard blue dashed line on the map? If not then I'll 
 propose one.

There is this proposal for seasonal=* that backs a while ago, but it never 
gained enough popularity. Feel free to work on it.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Tag for dry river

2009-04-18 Thread Maarten Deen
Joseph Scanlan wrote:

 We often call it a wash around here (Las Vegas, Nevada (in the 
 southwest US)).  Wikipedia, however, redirected me to arroyo.
 
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wash_(creek)
 
 Whatever name we use, it would be quite nice to have a tag for it. 
 Renderers, editors, etc. can handle the localization.
 
 I'm reluctant to use seasonal to modify another water feature tag.  You 
 may agree after reading the Wikipedia page.

I know it as a wadi, which I think is the Arabic term for it 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadi).

In the Netherlands the term wadi is also used for man-made depressions in 
grassy 
areas of housing estates to store surplus rainwater during and after rainfalls.
See http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadi_(infiltratievoorziening) and 
http://www.helden.nl/nl/html/algemeen/gemeenteloketten/balies/milieuafval/water/afkoppelen/afkoppelen.asp
 
(one page down under the line Het water stroomt) for uses of this in the 
Netherlands.
IMHO these are also useful to tag.

My proposal is to use something like waterway=wadi for this, and have it 
applied 
to ways and areas. I'm also not too fond of a seasonal tag for this. Wadi's 
are quote common features in arid regions.

Suggested rendering is a dotted line or a hatched area. That's how paper maps 
also display them.

Regards,
Maarten


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