Re: [OSM-talk] The New Cloud Atlas - Mapping Physical Infrastructure of the Internet with OSM

[Pierre Béland]

Tim Watterss wrote:> with Ben Dalton, I'm happy to properly launch The New 
Cloud Atlas
> project at http://newcloudatlas.org
Interesting tool. 

Searching for Data Centers in OSM, I observed inconsistencies with 
building=[industrial, commerce, office] and no tag specific the Data centers. I 
myself have added a Data center in the past but did not find an appropriate tag 
to describe it. 

To facilitate collaboration, I suggest that you provide tags for each feature 
and point to relevant wiki pages. 
  
Pierre 


  De : Tim Waters <chippy2...@gmail.com>
 À : osm <talk@openstreetmap.org> 
Cc : Ben Dalton <b...@noii.net>
 Envoyé le : mercredi 17 août 2016 11h31
 Objet : [OSM-talk] The New Cloud Atlas - Mapping Physical Infrastructure of 
the Internet with OSM
   
Hi folks,

with Ben Dalton, I'm happy to properly launch The New Cloud Atlas
project at http://newcloudatlas.org

I've written a blog post to explain it in more detail:
https://thinkwhere.wordpress.com/2016/08/17/the-new-cloud-atlas-mapping-the-physical-infrastructure-of-the-internet/

It's a project to collect and make a map to better understand what
"The Internet" means, physically and geographically. The site has a
tweaked iD editor with custom telecoms presets, it creates a couple of
map tilesets showing these features from OSM, with clickable features
on the map.

We encourage you to map your local data centres, street cabinets,
telephone exchanges, telephone poles, manhole covers and more!

Telecoms features in OSM are not consistently mapped with regards to
each other which could provide an opportunity for some consolidation
or making new taxonomies. I've created WikiProject Telecoms to help
with this tagging discussion:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Telecoms

Cheers and I look forward to your comments!

Tim

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Re: [OSM-talk] The New Cloud Atlas - Mapping Physical Infrastructure of the Internet with OSM

[François Lacombe]

Hi Tim,

This is really impressive, can't wait to test this special instance of iD :)
The road you went along since early 2015 brings a lot of positive things

Telecom tags consistency needs to be tidier, especially for towers, masts,
poles or whatever.
Your tools may help a lot to do so and find missing objects.


2016-08-17 19:22 GMT+02:00 Florian Lohoff :

>
> For Germany all phone exchanges from Deutsche Telekom have been imported
> some time ago but you dont seem to show them.
>
> This is an example for Exchange "ONKZ 5241 ASB 4":
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/151237643


I remember of a talk about man_made=MDF and imho it doesn't sound to be the
best solution.

Because main distribution frame is only a particular component inside a
whole central office.
http://www.infos-reseaux.com/photos/image.php?id=190


MDF can be mapped with dedicated features if mappers know exactly where
they are in (sometimes) big buildings.
The example you show is a building hosting many different kind of devices
and equipment and we'd better call them "central office".
telecom=central_office and building=yes (at least).

That's the point of this proposal
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Telecom_local_loop



All the best

François
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Re: [OSM-talk] The New Cloud Atlas - Mapping Physical Infrastructure of the Internet with OSM

[Hans De Kryger]

This is awesome. I definitely will be contributing. Thank you!

Regards,
Hans

On Aug 17, 2016 8:35 AM, "Tim Waters"  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> with Ben Dalton, I'm happy to properly launch The New Cloud Atlas
> project at http://newcloudatlas.org
>
> I've written a blog post to explain it in more detail:
> https://thinkwhere.wordpress.com/2016/08/17/the-new-cloud-
> atlas-mapping-the-physical-infrastructure-of-the-internet/
>
> It's a project to collect and make a map to better understand what
> "The Internet" means, physically and geographically. The site has a
> tweaked iD editor with custom telecoms presets, it creates a couple of
> map tilesets showing these features from OSM, with clickable features
> on the map.
>
> We encourage you to map your local data centres, street cabinets,
> telephone exchanges, telephone poles, manhole covers and more!
>
> Telecoms features in OSM are not consistently mapped with regards to
> each other which could provide an opportunity for some consolidation
> or making new taxonomies. I've created WikiProject Telecoms to help
> with this tagging discussion:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Telecoms
>
> Cheers and I look forward to your comments!
>
> Tim
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] The New Cloud Atlas - Mapping Physical Infrastructure of the Internet with OSM

[Florian Lohoff]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 04:31:50PM +0100, Tim Waters wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> with Ben Dalton, I'm happy to properly launch The New Cloud Atlas
> project at http://newcloudatlas.org
> 
> I've written a blog post to explain it in more detail:
> https://thinkwhere.wordpress.com/2016/08/17/the-new-cloud-atlas-mapping-the-physical-infrastructure-of-the-internet/
> 
> It's a project to collect and make a map to better understand what
> "The Internet" means, physically and geographically. The site has a
> tweaked iD editor with custom telecoms presets, it creates a couple of
> map tilesets showing these features from OSM, with clickable features
> on the map.

For Germany all phone exchanges from Deutsche Telekom have been imported
some time ago but you dont seem to show them.

This is an example for Exchange "ONKZ 5241 ASB 4":

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/151237643

Flo
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[OSM-talk] The New Cloud Atlas - Mapping Physical Infrastructure of the Internet with OSM

[Tim Waters]

Hi folks,

with Ben Dalton, I'm happy to properly launch The New Cloud Atlas
project at http://newcloudatlas.org

I've written a blog post to explain it in more detail:
https://thinkwhere.wordpress.com/2016/08/17/the-new-cloud-atlas-mapping-the-physical-infrastructure-of-the-internet/

It's a project to collect and make a map to better understand what
"The Internet" means, physically and geographically. The site has a
tweaked iD editor with custom telecoms presets, it creates a couple of
map tilesets showing these features from OSM, with clickable features
on the map.

We encourage you to map your local data centres, street cabinets,
telephone exchanges, telephone poles, manhole covers and more!

Telecoms features in OSM are not consistently mapped with regards to
each other which could provide an opportunity for some consolidation
or making new taxonomies. I've created WikiProject Telecoms to help
with this tagging discussion:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Telecoms

Cheers and I look forward to your comments!

Tim

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