[OSM-talk] User deleting abandoned and rejected proposals on the wiki
What's wrong with cleaning up the wiki? > Nothing, but, in my view that is different from removing obsolete or rejected pages. What would be useful, is to clearly mark all such material clearly. But I would keep it for a number of reasons: - you come across a "strange" tagging which is only documented in such pages. Often useful for understanding the purpose of the tags. - you are about to make proposal for tagging some feature. It is useful to be able to find abandoned or refused tagging approaches in that context. - someone is making the same (refused or abandoned) proposal again) The wiki is in that sense also a historic repository. What one could think about is to create a separate section "abandoned or refused" pages in the wiki. Volker Italy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User deleting abandoned and rejected proposals on the wiki
Hi Unsure what Adam's precise error has been (User Page = TL;DR), but giving the wiki a spring clean seems like good idea. Asking the admin to remove old pages is the correct way to do it. Has he deleted any himself? How has making it clear that they're not current pages "made it difficult to use the wiki"? I get irritated when doing an OSM wiki/Google search & they return proposals that have been redundant/ out of date for years. It must be very confusing for new users (the people most likely to use the wiki) So many proposals are by users who get confused by a situation, suggest a tag *very* similar to an existing one, or have a 'solution' to which they're desperate to find a problem to hang it on. What's wrong with cleaning up the wiki? There appears to be a growing fear of removing obsolete data from OSM, both the wiki & databases. I can't fathom why. Cheers DaveF On 25/07/2018 16:46, Michael Reichert wrote: Hi, I (Mateusz Konieczny was faster) found a user who removes all content from abandoned and rejected proposal pages on the wiki and adds the Delete template. It's the template asking a administrator to delete the page. I think that our admins are clever enough to not blindly follow these requests but his edits cause unnecessary workload for them and make it difficult to use the wiki. I would appreciate it if someone else reading this email could comment on his talk page. Maybe we are able to convince him why he is wrong. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Adamant1 These are some of the affected wiki pages: *Proposal pages* Proposed features/Adult services (shop=adult and other, has not reached RFC for 8 years) Proposed features/parking aisle (highway=parking_aisle, rejected, has become obselete by service=parking_aisle) Proposed features/Bag shop (shop=bag, tag in use, proposal abandoned) Proposed features/boat=private (boat=private, has not reached RFC since 2008) Proposed features/Marked trail (marked_trail=, has not reached RFC since 2008/2009) Proposed_features/Fire_Hydrant (amenity=fire_hydrant, rejected in 2010, 12,000–14,000 objects from 2010 to 2015 in the database) Proposed features/Driving pleasure (Driving_pleasure=1/2/3/4/5, cancelled in 2010) Proposed_features/agricultural_access (access=agricultural, proposal never left draft state but 120,000 objects in the database) Proposed_features/4th_Dimension (incomplete proposal from 2009 but long discussion page) *Documentation and other pages about "outdated software" - Potlatch_1/Development_overview/GPS_tracks - a lot of pages about Kosmos (predecessor of Maperitive), mainly rendering rules *Old events* South_East_London_Mapping_Party (mapping party in 2008) Best regards Michael ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] User deleting abandoned and rejected proposals on the wiki
Hi, I (Mateusz Konieczny was faster) found a user who removes all content from abandoned and rejected proposal pages on the wiki and adds the Delete template. It's the template asking a administrator to delete the page. I think that our admins are clever enough to not blindly follow these requests but his edits cause unnecessary workload for them and make it difficult to use the wiki. I would appreciate it if someone else reading this email could comment on his talk page. Maybe we are able to convince him why he is wrong. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Adamant1 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Adamant1 These are some of the affected wiki pages: *Proposal pages* Proposed features/Adult services (shop=adult and other, has not reached RFC for 8 years) Proposed features/parking aisle (highway=parking_aisle, rejected, has become obselete by service=parking_aisle) Proposed features/Bag shop (shop=bag, tag in use, proposal abandoned) Proposed features/boat=private (boat=private, has not reached RFC since 2008) Proposed features/Marked trail (marked_trail=, has not reached RFC since 2008/2009) Proposed_features/Fire_Hydrant (amenity=fire_hydrant, rejected in 2010, 12,000–14,000 objects from 2010 to 2015 in the database) Proposed features/Driving pleasure (Driving_pleasure=1/2/3/4/5, cancelled in 2010) Proposed_features/agricultural_access (access=agricultural, proposal never left draft state but 120,000 objects in the database) Proposed_features/4th_Dimension (incomplete proposal from 2009 but long discussion page) *Documentation and other pages about "outdated software" - Potlatch_1/Development_overview/GPS_tracks - a lot of pages about Kosmos (predecessor of Maperitive), mainly rendering rules *Old events* South_East_London_Mapping_Party (mapping party in 2008) Best regards Michael -- Per E-Mail kommuniziere ich bevorzugt GPG-verschlüsselt. (Mailinglisten ausgenommen) I prefer GPG encryption of emails. (does not apply on mailing lists) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
