Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM Maps on a Nokia Phone without online updates?

2010-03-25 Thread AssetBurned
Hi,

thanks for the tip! The program works with my Nokia, but it looks like you have 
to compile the whole program every time if you want to update the map data. o_O

Sorry but that makes it totally unusable in this case. I need to have a setup 
that is also usable by my dad. I can explain him to download a file and use it 
to replace an old one on a storage card... but if I try to explain him that he 
has to compile something no way.

Maybe that is a cool tool if you want to start a business (as some people did 
in the Apple-App-Store) to sell OpenStreetMap maps for a phone, or if you have 
to install the same map data on several phones. But not usable in my case :-/ 
even if i like the idea to have a search function for POIs, addresses and 
everything else stored in OSM.

cu AssetBurned

On 24.03.2010, at 18:45, Graham Jones wrote:

 Gpsmid is quite a good solution for phones with java (J2ME).
 
 On Mar 24, 2010 5:31 PM, AssetBurned openstreet...@assetburned.de wrote:
 
 I tried to figure out the best way to use OSM abroad, with my equipment.
 
 I need a way to use downloaded data. So I thought I could use my Symbian 
 S60v3 phone for it. It is a Nokia N82, a good tool for tracking, but to 
 locate yourself?!
 I found the WhereAmI+ app, but I'm not sure if it's still in developing and 
 I also have problems to get maps on it (the export function doesn't work).
 
 I'm not looking for an app that allows me full TomTom like navigation, just 
 the usual here I am and ok there is a street, in combination with a way 
 to track my position in background.
 I guess that this app is the right one, but if I can't install the maps for 
 another country before I travel it would be totally useless.
 
 Does someone have a good idea for an alternative?
 I was also thinking about buying a Garmin, but the N82 does basically have 
 the same functionality already. Maybe a tool to use Garmin maps on the N82 
 could be a solution, but I haven't seen such an app.



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Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM Maps on a Nokia Phone without online updates?

2010-03-25 Thread Graham Jones
I think you are right.  The map data is stored in a jar file - it can be a
different one to the program though.
There seem to be two classes of mobile OSM applications - some are like this
with static map data.  Others use live data, which means you need a network
connection to use it.
A mixture of the two would be good - it downlods data to a cache when a
network is available, and uses the cache when it is not.
Does anyone know of an application that works this way?

Graham


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On Mar 26, 2010 3:38 AM, AssetBurned openstreet...@assetburned.de wrote:

Hi,

thanks for the tip! The program works with my Nokia, but it looks like you
have to compile the whole program every time if you want to update the map
data. o_O

Sorry but that makes it totally unusable in this case. I need to have a
setup that is also usable by my dad. I can explain him to download a file
and use it to replace an old one on a storage card... but if I try to
explain him that he has to compile something no way.

Maybe that is a cool tool if you want to start a business (as some people
did in the Apple-App-Store) to sell OpenStreetMap maps for a phone, or if
you have to install the same map data on several phones. But not usable in
my case :-/ even if i like the idea to have a search function for POIs,
addresses and everything else stored in OSM.

cu AssetBurned

On 24.03.2010, at 18:45, Graham Jones wrote:

 Gpsmid is quite a good solution for phones with java (J2ME).

  On Mar 24, 2010 5:31 PM, AssetBurned openstreet...@assetburned.de
wrote:   I tried to...
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[OSM-talk] Using OSM Maps on a Nokia Phone without online updates?

2010-03-24 Thread AssetBurned
Hi,

I tried to figure out the best way to use OSM abroad, with my equipment.

I need a way to use downloaded data. So I thought I could use my Symbian S60v3 
phone for it. It is a Nokia N82, a good tool for tracking, but to locate 
yourself?!
I found the WhereAmI+ app, but I'm not sure if it's still in developing and I 
also have problems to get maps on it (the export function doesn't work).

I'm not looking for an app that allows me full TomTom like navigation, just the 
usual here I am and ok there is a street, in combination with a way to 
track my position in background.
I guess that this app is the right one, but if I can't install the maps for 
another country before I travel it would be totally useless.

Does someone have a good idea for an alternative?
I was also thinking about buying a Garmin, but the N82 does basically have the 
same functionality already. Maybe a tool to use Garmin maps on the N82 could be 
a solution, but I haven't seen such an app.

cu AssetBurned

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Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM Maps on a Nokia Phone without online updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Ken Guest
Out of the other apps that I have tried on my S80 nokia (a 9310i)
whereAmI did seem the best suited.
Not sure if it's still in active development though.

k.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:25 PM, AssetBurned
openstreet...@assetburned.de wrote:
 Hi,

 I tried to figure out the best way to use OSM abroad, with my equipment.

 I need a way to use downloaded data. So I thought I could use my Symbian 
 S60v3 phone for it. It is a Nokia N82, a good tool for tracking, but to 
 locate yourself?!
 I found the WhereAmI+ app, but I'm not sure if it's still in developing and I 
 also have problems to get maps on it (the export function doesn't work).

 I'm not looking for an app that allows me full TomTom like navigation, just 
 the usual here I am and ok there is a street, in combination with a way 
 to track my position in background.
 I guess that this app is the right one, but if I can't install the maps for 
 another country before I travel it would be totally useless.

 Does someone have a good idea for an alternative?
 I was also thinking about buying a Garmin, but the N82 does basically have 
 the same functionality already. Maybe a tool to use Garmin maps on the N82 
 could be a solution, but I haven't seen such an app.

 cu AssetBurned
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Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM Maps on a Nokia Phone without online updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Graham Jones
Gpsmid is quite a good solution for phones with java (J2ME).

Graham

On Mar 24, 2010 5:31 PM, AssetBurned openstreet...@assetburned.de wrote:

Hi,

I tried to figure out the best way to use OSM abroad, with my equipment.

I need a way to use downloaded data. So I thought I could use my Symbian
S60v3 phone for it. It is a Nokia N82, a good tool for tracking, but to
locate yourself?!
I found the WhereAmI+ app, but I'm not sure if it's still in developing and
I also have problems to get maps on it (the export function doesn't work).

I'm not looking for an app that allows me full TomTom like navigation, just
the usual here I am and ok there is a street, in combination with a way
to track my position in background.
I guess that this app is the right one, but if I can't install the maps for
another country before I travel it would be totally useless.

Does someone have a good idea for an alternative?
I was also thinking about buying a Garmin, but the N82 does basically have
the same functionality already. Maybe a tool to use Garmin maps on the N82
could be a solution, but I haven't seen such an app.

cu AssetBurned
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Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM Maps on a Nokia Phone without online updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Claudius
Am 24.03.2010 18:25, AssetBurned:
 Hi,

 I tried to figure out the best way to use OSM abroad, with my equipment.

 I need a way to use downloaded data. So I thought I could use my Symbian 
 S60v3 phone for it. It is a Nokia N82, a good tool for tracking, but to 
 locate yourself?!
 I found the WhereAmI+ app, but I'm not sure if it's still in developing and I 
 also have problems to get maps on it (the export function doesn't work).

WhereAmI is exactly what you are looking for. Did you follow the 
www.symbianos.org/whereamiusersguide ? A friend of mine successfully 
downloaded data from an asian country just two weeks ago.

You can select the data that you want to download beforehand using the 
handy map selector: www.symbianos.org/osmtileselector

Claudius


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Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM Maps on a Nokia Phone without online updates?

2010-03-24 Thread Someoneelse
Another one to maybe throw into the pot might be Mgmaps 
(http://www.mgmaps.com/).  That can just about work with downloaded data 
(I used Kosmos to generate the tiles) as well as working online if you 
want it to (when you're back home).

Depending on the zoom level it can take quite a large amount of storage 
to store tiles for a relatively small area, so if you're travelling 
around it might not be ideal.  I can't vouch for it on an N82 although a 
web search suggests that people might have got it working there.

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