Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?
On 09/09/2009 00:10, Richard Fairhurst wrote: David Earl wrote: Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets anyway? Lots of people still prefer it. I've not seen any evidence of people mistakenly selecting it - I think the big lightning bolt is pretty clear! I had to revert changes for someone this week who specifically said to me that's what had happened - he didn't realize he was editing live data. People don't read stuff in front of them. David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, David Earl wrote: On 09/09/2009 00:10, Richard Fairhurst wrote: David Earl wrote: Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets anyway? Lots of people still prefer it. I've not seen any evidence of people mistakenly selecting it - I think the big lightning bolt is pretty clear! I had to revert changes for someone this week who specifically said to me that's what had happened - he didn't realize he was editing live data. People don't read stuff in front of them. David Both modes have equal prominence on the front page. Perhaps adding one stage of difficulty to get to the live edit is justified. When I do use Potlatch I have to think whether I am 'meant' to be doing it live or delayed. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?
David Earl wrote: I had to revert changes for someone this week who specifically said to me that's what had happened - he didn't realize he was editing live data. People don't read stuff in front of them. Well, you can't completely idiot-proof these things, and it's a great shame to inconvenience everyone else just for the benefit of a few (expletive deleted)s who can't or won't read. Maybe an are you sure? could be displayed for the new user who edits live for the first time. If someone puts a trac ticket in then I'll do that as and when. That said, I'm not envisaging Potlatch 2 will have an edit live mode unless someone else codes it, simply because live editing is _much_ harder to code than edit-with-save and I'd rather spend the time on something else. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, David Earl wrote: On 09/09/2009 00:10, Richard Fairhurst wrote: David Earl wrote: Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets anyway? Lots of people still prefer it. I've not seen any evidence of people mistakenly selecting it - I think the big lightning bolt is pretty clear! I had to revert changes for someone this week who specifically said to me that's what had happened - he didn't realize he was editing live data. People don't read stuff in front of them. David Both modes have equal prominence on the front page. Perhaps adding one stage of difficulty to get to the live edit is justified. When I do use Potlatch I have to think whether I am 'meant' to be doing it live or delayed. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Why not go straight into Edit and Save and then have a button to go to Edit Live (one click to go there as now)? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 5:06 AM, wynnd...@lavabit.com wrote: Why not go straight into Edit and Save and then have a button to go to Edit Live (one click to go there as now)? +1 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?
It's obviously nonsense - a way extending right across the globe! But it looks like scribbling, the kind of thing people do in Potlatch not realising they are editing the live map. Despite the prompts at the beginning people STILL don't realise they are doing this. This is the second time this week I've seen his happen. Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets anyway? David On 08/09/2009 17:04, Chris Miller wrote: I just discovered a suspicious looking edit while working on a map splitter tool (http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/page/tile-splitter), as follows: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/737502 The splitter tool ended up creating a separate area just for node 355719431, which is completely on its own right out in the middle of the Pacific! To me this way looks like a doodle from someone just playing around with osm. It's the one and only edit from that user (hurkvan). If it does indeed look like it shouldn't be there, could someone more knowledgeable than myself please delete it? I haven't done any editing of the osm data before. (I do intend to learn at some point when I have time since I have some good GPS tracklogs from remote countries that are yet to be mapped, eg Bhutan.) Many thanks, Chris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?
I just discovered a suspicious looking edit while working on a map splitter tool (http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/page/tile-splitter), as follows: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/737502 The splitter tool ended up creating a separate area just for node 355719431, which is completely on its own right out in the middle of the Pacific! To me this way looks like a doodle from someone just playing around with osm. It's the one and only edit from that user (hurkvan). If it does indeed look like it shouldn't be there, could someone more knowledgeable than myself please delete it? I haven't done any editing of the osm data before. (I do intend to learn at some point when I have time since I have some good GPS tracklogs from remote countries that are yet to be mapped, eg Bhutan.) Many thanks, Chris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?
Chris Miller wrote: than myself please delete it? I haven't done any editing of the osm data Deleted... Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?
David Earl wrote: It's obviously nonsense - a way extending right across the globe! But it looks like scribbling, the kind of thing people do in Potlatch not realising they are editing the live map. Despite the prompts at the beginning people STILL don't realise they are doing this. This is the second time this week I've seen his happen. The way is an old one, created an older potlatch Version. I think the new prompt for Editing with save at the starts helps a lot. Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?
David Earl wrote: Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets anyway? Lots of people still prefer it. I've not seen any evidence of people mistakenly selecting it - I think the big lightning bolt is pretty clear! cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Vandalism-user-error--tp25349663p25355754.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
