Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst

Ed Loach wrote:
 When editing, Potlatch no longer shows what relations an 
 existing way is part of. I'm assuming this isn't deliberate.

Still trying to track this one down. It works 100% as intended on my local
test setup, with the latest svn code and the latest Potlatch (though still
running MySQL rather than Postgres). The bug only appears on the live site.

cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back - forum login

2009-04-22 Thread Lambertus
A sudden upset stomach caused some delay, but the forum login is working 
again.

Lambertus wrote:
 marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Login in the forum still seems to be broken.
 Getting 400 Bad Request on login.

 Yes, apparently the user details API call has changed enough to break 
 the forum authentication for now. I'm working on it.
 
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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread maning sambale
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From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net
Date: Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Subject: [OSM-talk] We're back
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


...with API 0.6, Postgres and the new server. But everyone's uploading
at once, so don't expect to do much serious editing for the time
being. :)

The new changeset stuff is really superb. Have a browse:
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets

Mad props (as the kids say) to Tom, Grant, Matt et al for getting it
done. Buy them a beer:
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.6/Beer

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[OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
...with API 0.6, Postgres and the new server. But everyone's uploading  
at once, so don't expect to do much serious editing for the time  
being. :)

The new changeset stuff is really superb. Have a browse:
   http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets

Mad props (as the kids say) to Tom, Grant, Matt et al for getting it  
done. Buy them a beer:
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.6/Beer

cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Ed Avis
Congratulations!  Excellent work.  I will start uploading my backlog of edits
shortly...

Does this mean you can now set up Postgres on your PC, load a planet file, and
get the same database layout as the main server?

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Shaun McDonald


On 21 Apr 2009, at 11:18, Ed Avis wrote:


Does this mean you can now set up Postgres on your PC, load a planet  
file, and

get the same database layout as the main server?



Yes, though it is still a different database layout compared to that  
used by Mapnik.


For the time being you can use both MySQL and Postgres using the same  
source.


Shaun


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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back - forum login

2009-04-21 Thread Lambertus
marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Login in the forum still seems to be broken.
 Getting 400 Bad Request on login.
 
Yes, apparently the user details API call has changed enough to break 
the forum authentication for now. I'm working on it.

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Richard Fairhurst
rich...@systemed.net wrote:
 The new changeset stuff is really superb. Have a browse:
   http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets


Just great ! Big thanks to the sysadmin team.

A small note : the changesets page says Recently closed changesets:
but we can see: (still editing) in the Saved at column. still
editing means that it is not yet closed, isn't ?
Another short question : empty changesets are possible ? (e.g.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/876923) (I tried to
download the xml but no response - I guess it is the server current
load).
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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Steve Hill
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

 ...with API 0.6, Postgres and the new server. But everyone's uploading
 at once, so don't expect to do much serious editing for the time
 being. :)

The deltas in http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute aren't being updated 
at the moment - what's the plan for these (I notice that the test06 
directory has more up to date deltas, but these have stopped now too)?

I assume the deltas for the new API are different (so will need a 
osm2pgsql upgrade) - are they going to be served from the same URI, or is 
the API version number going to be included in the URI so that people 
don't end up with 0.6 deltas when they were expecting 0.5?

 The new changeset stuff is really superb. Have a browse:
   http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets

The changeset stuff looks really good, and I note the welcome addition of 
a comment field.  Is there any way of getting an RSS feed (or similar) 
of recent changesets and their comments within a specific bounding box? 
That'd be really good to get an at-a-glance idea of what the latest 
changes in your area are all about.

  - Steve
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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst

Pieren wrote:
 Another short question : empty changesets are possible ? 
 (e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/876923) 
 (I tried to download the xml but no response - I guess it is the 
 server current load).

Indeed, there's no prohibition on empty changesets. Specifically, Potlatch
at present creates a new changeset when you open it, so if you don't
actually make any edits then an empty changeset will result. I'd like to fix
this so it only creates a changeset on your first edit, but it's not
critical.

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Martijn van Exel
Great. Congratulations to all involved. You pulled a massive, great job.
Potlatch seems to be stuck for me at 'Loading Presets'. It does say 0.11.
Firefox and Chrome on windows. Is this load-related or something else
altogether?

martijn van exel -+- mve...@gmail.com -+- http://www.schaaltreinen.nl/


On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:43, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote:

 ...with API 0.6, Postgres and the new server. But everyone's uploading
 at once, so don't expect to do much serious editing for the time
 being. :)

 The new changeset stuff is really superb. Have a browse:
   http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets

 Mad props (as the kids say) to Tom, Grant, Matt et al for getting it
 done. Buy them a beer:
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.6/Beer

 cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Shaun McDonald

On 21 Apr 2009, at 12:27, Steve Hill wrote:

 On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

 ...with API 0.6, Postgres and the new server. But everyone's  
 uploading
 at once, so don't expect to do much serious editing for the time
 being. :)

 The deltas in http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute aren't being  
 updated
 at the moment - what's the plan for these (I notice that the test06
 directory has more up to date deltas, but these have stopped now too)?

The minute diffs are currently down until Brett updates Osmois on dev.


 I assume the deltas for the new API are different (so will need a
 osm2pgsql upgrade) - are they going to be served from the same URI,  
 or is
 the API version number going to be included in the URI so that people
 don't end up with 0.6 deltas when they were expecting 0.5?

osm2pgsql should be able to cope with the new 0.6 deltas, as there is  
only the addition of the version and changeset tags.


 The new changeset stuff is really superb. Have a browse:
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets

 The changeset stuff looks really good, and I note the welcome  
 addition of
 a comment field.  Is there any way of getting an RSS feed (or  
 similar)
 of recent changesets and their comments within a specific bounding  
 box?
 That'd be really good to get an at-a-glance idea of what the latest
 changes in your area are all about.


There is no RSS feed yet, that won't get implement for at least a week  
or two until the current load and bugs have settled out.

Shaun


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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back - forum login

2009-04-21 Thread marcus.wolschon

Login in the forum still seems to be broken.
Getting 400 Bad Request on login.

Marcus

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Brett Henderson
Shaun McDonald wrote:

 On 21 Apr 2009, at 12:27, Steve Hill wrote:

 On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

 ...with API 0.6, Postgres and the new server. But everyone's uploading
 at once, so don't expect to do much serious editing for the time
 being. :)

 The deltas in http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute aren't being 
 updated
 at the moment - what's the plan for these (I notice that the test06
 directory has more up to date deltas, but these have stopped now too)?

 The minute diffs are currently down until Brett updates Osmois on dev.
I'm on the train.  Give me an hour or so ...

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Ed Loach
Richard wrote:

 Specifically, Potlatch
 at present creates a new changeset when you open it, so if you
 don't
 actually make any edits then an empty changeset will result.

Talking of Potlatch, should I open a trac ticket for the following?

An example way:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/13674690

The issue:
When editing, Potlatch no longer shows what relations an existing
way is part of. I'm assuming this isn't deliberate.

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org wrote:

 The changeset stuff looks really good, and I note the welcome addition of
 a comment field.  Is there any way of getting an RSS feed (or similar)
 of recent changesets and their comments within a specific bounding box?
 That'd be really good to get an at-a-glance idea of what the latest
 changes in your area are all about.

Future work, please file a trac ticket (although I'm not sure you're
the first to ask :-) )

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst

Martijn van Exel wrote:
 Great. Congratulations to all involved. You pulled a massive, great 
 job. Potlatch seems to be stuck for me at 'Loading Presets'. It does 
 say 0.11. Firefox and Chrome on windows. Is this load-related or 
 something else altogether?

Load-related.

I know of two issues with Potlatch 0.11 at the moment. One is relation
handling (actually I see Ed's just posted about that) - not clear yet
whether this is Potlatch-specific. The other is that there seems to be some
issue with junction nodes which is causing a server error dialogue to come
up, haven't narrowed this one down yet.

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Ed Loach
Richard wrote:
 I know of two issues with Potlatch 0.11 at the moment. One is
 relation
 handling (actually I see Ed's just posted about that) - not
 clear yet
 whether this is Potlatch-specific. 

JOSM showed the relation that the way was part of, but there seems
to be a different relation issue affecting at least JOSM recently
mentioned on dev where amending one relation tag key's value updated
all the relation keys to have the same value, though are still
correct in history.

http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/115694
http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/115694/history

Although looking at the history it only lists the tags for the first
changeset and not the later ones. I'm assuming that isn’t by design
either. 

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Gregory Williams
 -Original Message-
 From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-
 boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ed Loach
 Sent: 21 April 2009 14:28
 To: 'Richard Fairhurst'; talk@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] We're back
 
 Richard wrote:
  I know of two issues with Potlatch 0.11 at the moment. One is
  relation
  handling (actually I see Ed's just posted about that) - not
  clear yet
  whether this is Potlatch-specific.
 
 JOSM showed the relation that the way was part of, but there seems
 to be a different relation issue affecting at least JOSM recently
 mentioned on dev where amending one relation tag key's value updated
 all the relation keys to have the same value, though are still
 correct in history.
 
 http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/115694
 http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/115694/history
 
 Although looking at the history it only lists the tags for the first
 changeset and not the later ones. I'm assuming that isn't by design
 either.

Almost. The tag values shown in the non-history version of the call are
only from the first version, which was what I was attempting to fix the
value for (I meant to type National cycle Network National Route 43, not
...4).

I've shown that the issue also happens with JOSM 1529 (the one currently
considered stable). I suspect that it's API rather than JOSM related and
am currently scanning the Ruby code (and attempting to learn Ruby at the
same time...). Can't find where tag.save is implemented at the moment
though...

Gregory

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Nop

Hi!


I noted that in the OSM inbox, all old messages are truncated to about 
the same length. I guess this is a result of transferring them.

Are there any plans to restore them?

bye
Nop

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Shaun McDonald

On 21 Apr 2009, at 18:32, Nop wrote:


 Hi!


 I noted that in the OSM inbox, all old messages are truncated to about
 the same length. I guess this is a result of transferring them.

 Are there any plans to restore them?


This problem was found and sorted in the past few hours.

Can you please check again, and if you still have a problem supply  
your username?

Shaun


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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Grant Slater
check again and report.

/ Grant

Nop wrote:
 Hi!


 I noted that in the OSM inbox, all old messages are truncated to about 
 the same length. I guess this is a result of transferring them.

 Are there any plans to restore them?

 bye
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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Rolf Bode-Meyer
2009/4/21 Gregory Williams gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk:
 The tag values shown in the non-history version of the call are only
 from the first version, which was what I was attempting to fix the value
 for (I meant to type National cycle Network National Route 43, not ...4).

Hm, I see something different, route in all tags values.
But assuming the timestamp in the db is correct that might come from
another of your edits after your post.

Rolf

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Nop
Grant Slater schrieb:
 check again and report.

Appears to be fixed.

bye
Nop

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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Mike Harris
Goodie goodie - now we can all learn German
Ausgezeichnet - jetzt können wir alle die schöne deutschen Sprache lernen
(:)

And hearty congratulations to the hard-working team ...

Mike Harris

-Original Message-
From: Richard Fairhurst [mailto:rich...@systemed.net] 
Sent: 21 April 2009 10:44
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] We're back

...with API 0.6, Postgres and the new server. But everyone's uploading at
once, so don't expect to do much serious editing for the time being. :)

The new changeset stuff is really superb. Have a browse:
   http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets

Mad props (as the kids say) to Tom, Grant, Matt et al for getting it done.
Buy them a beer:
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.6/Beer

cheers
Richard





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Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Gregory Williams
 -Original Message-
 From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-
 boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Rolf Bode-Meyer
 Sent: 21 April 2009 19:09
 To: talk@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] We're back
 
 2009/4/21 Gregory Williams
 gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk:
  The tag values shown in the non-history version of the call are only
  from the first version, which was what I was attempting to fix the
 value
  for (I meant to type National cycle Network National Route 43, not
 ...4).
 
 Hm, I see something different, route in all tags values.
 But assuming the timestamp in the db is correct that might come from
 another of your edits after your post.

That's only because I've made further modifications to the relation
since my earlier posting, when trying various things. I see all route
now instead as well.

Gregory

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