Re: [OSM-talk] Which global OSM mailing list for the "community index"?

2019-06-20 Thread Mike N

On 6/20/2019 7:39 AM, Andy Townsend wrote:
I'd suggest "talk" as a more sensible introductory mailing list to 
"tagging" as the latter is higher volume and more in depth in a 
particular area of OSM.


  It is almost an automatic reaction to redirect questions like "is 
this a real shale surface", or "how to tag the mobile home park trailer 
numbers?", to tagging, which requires another "email registration cycle".


___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk


Re: [OSM-talk] Which global OSM mailing list for the "community index"?

2019-06-20 Thread Komяpa
Frederik,

Feel free to add both. With a proper description it won't hurt.

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 2:43 PM Andy Townsend  wrote:

> On 20/06/2019 11:46, Mike N wrote:
> > On 6/20/2019 5:58 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> >> Clearly one of the global mailing lists is missing here;
> >
> >   Forum.openstreetmap.org
> >
> "talk" probably gets more pairs of eyes on it than the Q subforum
> https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=10 (which is probably
> the nearest equivalent).  Both require registration with something that
> new participants already have (an email address in one case; some OSM
> login credentials in the other).  Both have had similar numbers of posts
> today.
>
> Some people will prefer forums to mailing lists, some vice versa; why
> not suggest both?
>
> I'd suggest "talk" as a more sensible introductory mailing list to
> "tagging" as the latter is higher volume and more in depth in a
> particular area of OSM.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> ___
> talk mailing list
> talk@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>


-- 
Darafei Praliaskouski
Support me: http://patreon.com/komzpa
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk


Re: [OSM-talk] Which global OSM mailing list for the "community index"?

2019-06-20 Thread Andy Townsend

On 20/06/2019 11:46, Mike N wrote:

On 6/20/2019 5:58 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:

Clearly one of the global mailing lists is missing here;


  Forum.openstreetmap.org

"talk" probably gets more pairs of eyes on it than the Q subforum 
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=10 (which is probably 
the nearest equivalent).  Both require registration with something that 
new participants already have (an email address in one case; some OSM 
login credentials in the other).  Both have had similar numbers of posts 
today.


Some people will prefer forums to mailing lists, some vice versa; why 
not suggest both?


I'd suggest "talk" as a more sensible introductory mailing list to 
"tagging" as the latter is higher volume and more in depth in a 
particular area of OSM.


Best Regards,

Andy



___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk


Re: [OSM-talk] Which global OSM mailing list for the "community index"?

2019-06-20 Thread Mike N

On 6/20/2019 5:58 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:

Clearly one of the global mailing lists is missing here;


  Forum.openstreetmap.org

___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk


[OSM-talk] Which global OSM mailing list for the "community index"?

2019-06-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

in parts of the world for which no particular national/regional
resources have been defined, the "id" editor will suggest to get in
touch with "us" and/or other mappers through:

* Reddit
* Facebook
* Telegram
* Discord
* Twitter
* OSM help
* OSM IRC channel
* OSMF website

(this list is defined in from
https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index/tree/master/resources/world)

Clearly one of the global mailing lists is missing here; I wonder which
one it should be. "talk" has had participation from ~ 160 different
community members in 2019 so far, "tagging" even ~ 200. Though maybe
tagging is too specific and talk a better starting point for someone who
wants to get in touch?

For comparison, I would be interested in how many people have
participated in the global venues that id currently links to. Are there
public archives that would allow me to count that?

I tried to gauge participation in help.osm in all of 2019 and came up
with ~ 620 different people who either asked or answered at least one
question. But help is a less "egalitarian" landscape than the mailing
lists; a very large part of those 620 just ask one question and don't
participate further, and a very small number of these 620 answer all the
questions. The mailing lists have fewer people participating but those
that do are more likely to engage in a bidirectional fashion.

It would be interesting to quantify this in a more scientific manner.

Bye
Frederik

-- 
Frederik Ramm  ##  eMail frede...@remote.org  ##  N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk