[OSM-talk] barrier=tool_booth also for automated toll cameras?

2009-05-05 Thread Maarten Deen
Is it ok to use barrier=toll_booth for portals over the road with cameras for 
automated toll collection, like the ones used for LKW Maut (HGV toll) in 
Germany?
To me, toll_booth indicates a physical barrier, and a portal is no barrier.

Regards,
Maarten

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Re: [OSM-talk] barrier=tool_booth also for automated toll cameras?

2009-05-05 Thread David Lynch
I've been using it for electronic toll collection, even though it
doesn't require stopping.

There probably should be some tag like highway=toll_collection to
cover places where tolls are collected in addition to
barrier=toll_booth where an actual stop is required.

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:45, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 Is it ok to use barrier=toll_booth for portals over the road with cameras for
 automated toll collection, like the ones used for LKW Maut (HGV toll) in 
 Germany?
 To me, toll_booth indicates a physical barrier, and a portal is no barrier.

 Regards,
 Maarten

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Re: [OSM-talk] barrier=tool_booth also for automated toll cameras?

2009-05-05 Thread Greg Troxel

David Lynch djly...@gmail.com writes:

 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:45, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Is it ok to use barrier=toll_booth for portals over the road with
 cameras for automated toll collection, like the ones used for LKW
 Maut (HGV toll) in Germany?  To me, toll_booth indicates a physical
 barrier, and a portal is no barrier.

 I've been using it for electronic toll collection, even though it
 doesn't require stopping.

 There probably should be some tag like highway=toll_collection to
 cover places where tolls are collected in addition to
 barrier=toll_booth where an actual stop is required.

To me, toll booths are features like stop signs and traffic lights.
Barriers are things like gates that you more or less can't get through,
or are an unusual hassle.


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Re: [OSM-talk] barrier=tool_booth also for automated toll cameras?

2009-05-05 Thread Ulf Lamping
Greg Troxel schrieb:
 David Lynch djly...@gmail.com writes:
 
 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:45, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 
 Is it ok to use barrier=toll_booth for portals over the road with
 cameras for automated toll collection, like the ones used for LKW
 Maut (HGV toll) in Germany?  To me, toll_booth indicates a physical
 barrier, and a portal is no barrier.
 
 I've been using it for electronic toll collection, even though it
 doesn't require stopping.

 There probably should be some tag like highway=toll_collection to
 cover places where tolls are collected in addition to
 barrier=toll_booth where an actual stop is required.
 
 To me, toll booths are features like stop signs and traffic lights.
 Barriers are things like gates that you more or less can't get through,
 or are an unusual hassle.

Well, as the name toll *booth* implies, to me highway=toll_booth or 
barrier=toll_booth is about where someone sits in a booth and collects a 
toll from you. You'll very often also find a barrier=lift_gate to 
enforce the toll - and I would think barrier=toll_booth implies these 
kind of gates together with a booth ;-)

This wouldn't IMHO include the (automated) toll portals often found at 
german motorways - no booth involved! This reminds me more of a 
speed_camera or maybe even surveillance than of a classical toll booth ...

Maybe something like highway=toll_surveillance ? Or some native speaker 
here with a better term?

Regards, ULFL

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