Re: [OSM-talk] it's not a fake, but "it's complicated" - fake building for several shops inside one building
5 Feb 2020, 21:06 by marc_marc_...@hotmail.com: > Hello, > >> I've now moved to tagging as many of them them as 'fixme' >> > > nice to highlight the issue. > but why not fixing it ? > In case of systematic mass edit, (especially by paid mappers) it may take unreasonable effort to fix it. And as I understood the main problem is lack of communication and ignoring reports of systematic mistakes.___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] it's not a fake, but "it's complicated" - fake building for several shops inside one building
On 05/02/2020 20:06, marc marc wrote: nice to highlight the issue. but why not fixing it ? part of the reason for that was described a decade ago by Andy Allan: https://blog.gravitystorm.co.uk/2009/11/10/the-pottery-club/ That was talking about imports, but "poor commercial mapping in the hope that the community will tidy it up" causes the same problem. Commercial mappers may be paid not for quality, but for quantity, and the sheer number of individual mappers can overwhelm local mappers' attempts to check their edits. See for example this list: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Grab#Grab_Data_Team . Some of the problems that that led to can be seen at https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=64075 , also in that forum see https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=67707 for comments relevant to the edits in Panama too. "Having lots of paid mappers" doesn't necessarily mean "will ignore local suggestions" - I can think of one very large group (perhaps the largest) who have been very responsive. This potential asymmetry was one of the things that lead to the Organised Editing Guidelines being created: https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines , and the list at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities . Some organisations have been very open and responsive about what they were trying to do - generally these are the entries in the "Activities" table with lots of information. Some have been, how shall I put it, "less forthcoming" and had to be asked by the DWG to create an entry in that table at all. Best Regards, Andy (from the DWG) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] it's not a fake, but "it's complicated" - fake building for several shops inside one building
On 05/02/2020 20:06, marc marc wrote: Hello, I've now moved to tagging as many of them them as 'fixme' nice to highlight the issue. but why not fixing it ? As stated previously, it's not the responsibility of the person spotting errors to fix it, especially if it's been performed knowingly.. josm contourmerge pluging can do that easily. I'm sure this is a very useful plugin, But the wiki is very difficult to read. instead of 'contours' it really should say 'boundary' DaveF ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] it's not a fake, but "it's complicated" - fake building for several shops inside one building
Hello, > I've now moved to tagging as many of them them as 'fixme' nice to highlight the issue. but why not fixing it ? remove the building tag for every fake building object, add the building on the whole outer back. josm contourmerge pluging can do that easily. or, of course, contact DWG if the mapper don't try to fix his errors. any changeset comment about this ? Regards, Marc ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
