Re: [OSM-talk] landuse for hotels
2009/8/6 Joseph Scanlan : > I suppose if a hotel is surrounded by commercial landuse then there's no > point making a little retail island to hold it. +1 Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse for hotels
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Lester Caine wrote: > Currently there SHOULD be a landuse/natural tag for each area on a map as > using amenity= creates another level of complexity. One may still has to > decide what to use for landuse if the tag itself is missing. I still think > 'landuse=natural' with a sub tag of natural= is the correct framework ... Thanks everyone for the input. In this case I'm going with landuse=retail. The hotel itself is tagged building=yes, tourism=hotel. I suppose if a hotel is surrounded by commercial landuse then there's no point making a little retail island to hold it. -- - Joseph Scanlan +1-702-455-3679 http://www.n7xsd.us/ j...@co.clark.nv.us (work) (not work) n7...@arrl.net - So he went inside there to take on what he found. But he never escaped them, for who can escape what he desires? --Tony Banks of Genesis in "The Lady Lies" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse for hotels
2009/8/6 John McKerrell : > > On 6 Aug 2009, at 07:47, Mark Williams wrote: > >> Stephan Plepelits wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:54:01PM -0700, Joseph Scanlan wrote: What landuse are we using for hotels? I'm pretty sure it should be commercial or retail. >>> For the area of the hotel: >>> amenity=hotel >>> >>> And for the hotel itself: >>> amenity=hotel, building=yes >>> > Sounds good but it's tourism=hotel not amenity! :-) I guess even for business-hotels, or is there a distinction made? IMHO building=hotel is better than building=yes cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse for hotels
Stephan Plepelits wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:54:01PM -0700, Joseph Scanlan wrote: >> What landuse are we using for hotels? I'm pretty sure it should be >> commercial or retail. > For the area of the hotel: > amenity=hotel > > And for the hotel itself: > amenity=hotel, building=yes > > (For reference see amnenity=university) The question is what to use for landuse= Currently there SHOULD be a landuse/natural tag for each area on a map as using amenity= creates another level of complexity. One may still has to decide what to use for landuse if the tag itself is missing. I still think 'landuse=natural' with a sub tag of natural= is the correct framework ... In the UK hotels are a retail activity although a specific classification of retail, but the landuse=retail fits the current tag structure but the BLPU classifications are a little more practical than that. This would give landuse=residential and landuse=commercial with secondary tags taken from amenity= but logically a residential=xx or commercial=xx is a lot more practical. Appendix A of http://www.nlpg.org.uk/documents/DTF7.3v1.pdf has the details, or http://enquirysolve.co.uk/nlpg/list_county.php?list=blpu_class has a sortable list. All land in the UK is already classified under this scheme and from what I've seen, something similar is evolving in Europe? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse for hotels
On 6 Aug 2009, at 07:47, Mark Williams wrote: > Stephan Plepelits wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:54:01PM -0700, Joseph Scanlan wrote: >>> What landuse are we using for hotels? I'm pretty sure it should be >>> commercial or retail. >> For the area of the hotel: >> amenity=hotel >> >> And for the hotel itself: >> amenity=hotel, building=yes >> >> (For reference see amnenity=university) >> >> greetings, >>Stephan > +1 Sounds good but it's tourism=hotel not amenity! :-) John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse for hotels
Stephan Plepelits wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:54:01PM -0700, Joseph Scanlan wrote: >> What landuse are we using for hotels? I'm pretty sure it should be >> commercial or retail. > For the area of the hotel: > amenity=hotel > > And for the hotel itself: > amenity=hotel, building=yes > > (For reference see amnenity=university) > > greetings, > Stephan +1 Mark ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse for hotels
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:54:01PM -0700, Joseph Scanlan wrote: > What landuse are we using for hotels? I'm pretty sure it should be > commercial or retail. For the area of the hotel: amenity=hotel And for the hotel itself: amenity=hotel, building=yes (For reference see amnenity=university) greetings, Stephan -- Seid unbequem, seid Sand, nicht Öl im Getriebe der Welt! - Günther Eich ,-. | Stephan Plepelits, | | Technische Universität Wien -Studien Informatik & Raumplanung | | > openstreetbrowser.org > couchsurfing.org > tubasis.at > bl.mud.at | | sk...@xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at - My Blog: http://plepe.at | `-' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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Nic Roets wrote: > Could even be farmland or nature reserve e.g. Singita Lodge. Or additionally include a golf course or sports area. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse for hotels
Could even be farmland or nature reserve e.g. Singita Lodge. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:04 PM, John McKerrell wrote: > > On 5 Aug 2009, at 21:31, OJ W wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Ciarán > > Mooney wrote: > >>> What landuse are we using for hotels? I'm pretty sure it should be > >>> commercial or retail. > >> > >> I'm going to go with commercial, they as retail suggests that they > >> sell a physical product. > > > > commercial suggests office buildings, which are deserted at night. > > doesn't retail imply 'open to passersby' rather than 'physical > > products sold'? > > I'd almost suggest residential, it's where people are residing, even > if not permanently. > > John > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse for hotels
On 5 Aug 2009, at 21:31, OJ W wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Ciarán > Mooney wrote: >>> What landuse are we using for hotels? I'm pretty sure it should be >>> commercial or retail. >> >> I'm going to go with commercial, they as retail suggests that they >> sell a physical product. > > commercial suggests office buildings, which are deserted at night. > doesn't retail imply 'open to passersby' rather than 'physical > products sold'? I'd almost suggest residential, it's where people are residing, even if not permanently. John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Ciarán Mooney wrote: >> What landuse are we using for hotels? I'm pretty sure it should be >> commercial or retail. > > I'm going to go with commercial, they as retail suggests that they > sell a physical product. commercial suggests office buildings, which are deserted at night. doesn't retail imply 'open to passersby' rather than 'physical products sold'? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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> What landuse are we using for hotels? I'm pretty sure it should be > commercial or retail. I'm going to go with commercial, they as retail suggests that they sell a physical product. Ciarán ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] landuse for hotels
G'day, What landuse are we using for hotels? I'm pretty sure it should be commercial or retail. -- - Joseph Scanlan +1-702-455-3679 http://www.n7xsd.us/ j...@co.clark.nv.us (work) (not work) n7...@arrl.net - So he went inside there to take on what he found. But he never escaped them, for who can escape what he desires? --Tony Banks of Genesis in "The Lady Lies" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
