Re: [OSM-talk] opening_hours for turn restriction

[Robin `ypid` Schneider]

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Good evening,

On 10.11.2015 14:36, Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
>> El 10 nov 2015, a las 09:57, Badita Florin 
>> escribió:
>> 
>> Hello, i have a question, how do you tag the opening hours for a turn
>> restriction that is activated only during a certain time of day or week. 
>> Also, do you have an idea what software is using this attributies ?
>> 
>> http://i.imgur.com/a1eBFoe.jpg
>> 
>> On the wiki the information is old and also deprecated
>> 
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:restriction
>> 
>> It says about hour_on but on the wiki the tag is not valid.
>> 
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hour_on
>> 
>> Should i use the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours
>> tag, as recomented ?
>> 
>> My fear is that i will add a restriction, and all of the apps that does
>> not parse the opening hours will use this as a default , and will make
>> this restriction permanent, producing maybe more damage then not adding
>> the restriction at all
> 
> I don't know what the correct tag is, and the wiki is inconsistent about
> it. It says hour_on is deprecated in favor of opening_hours and conditional
> restrictions, but the Conditional restrictions page says nothing about turn
> restrictions, and the turn restrictions page says you should use
> hour_on...
> 
> But as far as I know there is no OSM routing engine that supports
> conditional restrictions yet, whatever the tag. It's not an easy problem,
> especially since the algorithm has to consider if the restriction applies
> at the time the user would arrive to that point, rather than at the time he
> asks for the route at the beginning of the trip.

How about:

restriction:conditional=no_left_turn @ (Mo-Fr 06:30-21:30)

The key restriction:conditional is currently used 61 times.
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/restriction%3Aconditional#overview

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[OSM-talk] opening_hours for turn restriction

[Badita Florin]

Hello, i have a question, how do you tag the opening hours for a turn
restriction that is activated only during a certain time of day or week.
Also, do you have an idea what software is using this attributies ?

http://i.imgur.com/a1eBFoe.jpg

On the wiki the information is old and also deprecated

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:restriction

It says about hour_on but on the wiki the tag is not valid.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hour_on

Should i use the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours tag,
as recomented ?

My fear is that i will add a restriction, and all of the apps that does not
parse the opening hours will use this as a default , and will make this
restriction permanent, producing maybe more damage then not adding the
restriction at all

Thanks
Florin
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Re: [OSM-talk] opening_hours for turn restriction

[Nicolás Alvarez]

> El 10 nov 2015, a las 09:57, Badita Florin  escribió:
> 
> Hello, i have a question, how do you tag the opening hours for a turn 
> restriction that is activated only during a certain time of day or week.
> Also, do you have an idea what software is using this attributies ?
> 
> http://i.imgur.com/a1eBFoe.jpg
> 
> On the wiki the information is old and also deprecated
> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:restriction
> 
> It says about hour_on but on the wiki the tag is not valid. 
> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:hour_on
> 
> Should i use the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours tag, as 
> recomented ?
> 
> My fear is that i will add a restriction, and all of the apps that does not 
> parse the opening hours will use this as a default , and will make this 
> restriction permanent, producing maybe more damage then not adding the 
> restriction at all 

I don't know what the correct tag is, and the wiki is inconsistent about it. It 
says hour_on is deprecated in favor of opening_hours and conditional 
restrictions, but the Conditional restrictions page says nothing about turn 
restrictions, and the turn restrictions page says you should use hour_on...

But as far as I know there is no OSM routing engine that supports conditional 
restrictions yet, whatever the tag. It's not an easy problem, especially since 
the algorithm has to consider if the restriction applies at the time the user 
would arrive to that point, rather than at the time he asks for the route at 
the beginning of the trip.

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