Re: [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing
I guess not, this would mean that anybody (for example any tourist in a car) can use this road, as long as he ends the journey there (and parks the car inside the area) - but that is not the case, as only few individuals actually have the permit to go there. vehicle=destination is rougly equivalent to prohibitory traffic sign with throught traffic forbidden sign, forbidding entry to people who does not interrupt the journey (load/unload cargo, visit someone, etc ...) inside marked area. Not to All vehicles forbidden, except those few with a permit. Martin On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Sounds like perhaps highway=pedestrian, vehicle=destination would be closer to what we're looking for? On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/12/24 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On 2012-12-23 23:53, Chris Hill wrote: On 23/12/12 15:41, Stan Berka wrote: Yesterday, I did navigation to my work place here in Warsaw using Osmand o my G2. The route I was given led through Warsaw Old Town. The problem with this is, the Old Town is closed to most vehicles, year long, except for special vehicles (shop supply, city services etc). Thus, the route was completely useless since I'm not a firetruck driver. How can this problem be resolved, so OSM routers can generate more useful? that sounds like a highway=pedestrian to me. You could add a access=destination to it. Then routing should be done only to addresses on those roads and the roads should not be used to go from A to B. You should't add access=destination to this, because the OP wrote that the road is closed for vehicles besides some exceptions like loading and emergency vehicles.,Access=destination would be allowing access for everyone who has to go to an address in the area. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing
2012/12/24 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On 2012-12-23 23:53, Chris Hill wrote: On 23/12/12 15:41, Stan Berka wrote: Yesterday, I did navigation to my work place here in Warsaw using Osmand o my G2. The route I was given led through Warsaw Old Town. The problem with this is, the Old Town is closed to most vehicles, year long, except for special vehicles (shop supply, city services etc). Thus, the route was completely useless since I'm not a firetruck driver. How can this problem be resolved, so OSM routers can generate more useful? that sounds like a highway=pedestrian to me. You could add a access=destination to it. Then routing should be done only to addresses on those roads and the roads should not be used to go from A to B. You should't add access=destination to this, because the OP wrote that the road is closed for vehicles besides some exceptions like loading and emergency vehicles.,Access=destination would be allowing access for everyone who has to go to an address in the area. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing
Sounds like perhaps highway=pedestrian, vehicle=destination would be closer to what we're looking for? On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/12/24 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On 2012-12-23 23:53, Chris Hill wrote: On 23/12/12 15:41, Stan Berka wrote: Yesterday, I did navigation to my work place here in Warsaw using Osmand o my G2. The route I was given led through Warsaw Old Town. The problem with this is, the Old Town is closed to most vehicles, year long, except for special vehicles (shop supply, city services etc). Thus, the route was completely useless since I'm not a firetruck driver. How can this problem be resolved, so OSM routers can generate more useful? that sounds like a highway=pedestrian to me. You could add a access=destination to it. Then routing should be done only to addresses on those roads and the roads should not be used to go from A to B. You should't add access=destination to this, because the OP wrote that the road is closed for vehicles besides some exceptions like loading and emergency vehicles.,Access=destination would be allowing access for everyone who has to go to an address in the area. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing
Yesterday, I did navigation to my work place here in Warsaw using Osmand o my G2. The route I was given led through Warsaw Old Town. The problem with this is, the Old Town is closed to most vehicles, year long, except for special vehicles (shop supply, city services etc). Thus, the route was completely useless since I'm not a firetruck driver. How can this problem be resolved, so OSM routers can generate more useful? droidguy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing
Tagging with access:no usually does the trick :) Just see here for a list of access tags - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access cheers, ingalls On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Stan Berka stan.be...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday, I did navigation to my work place here in Warsaw using Osmand o my G2. The route I was given led through Warsaw Old Town. The problem with this is, the Old Town is closed to most vehicles, year long, except for special vehicles (shop supply, city services etc). Thus, the route was completely useless since I'm not a firetruck driver. How can this problem be resolved, so OSM routers can generate more useful? droidguy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing
2012/12/23 nicholas ingalls nicholas.inga...@gmail.com: Tagging with access:no usually does the trick :) Just see here for a list of access tags - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access a public road shouldn't be tagged with access=no, better use a restriction which is specific for the group of vehicles/users that don't have access. A general way to tag the restriction described by the OP could also be highway=pedestrian. For very specific cases you can use conditional access-tags. A description can be found here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing
On 23/12/12 15:41, Stan Berka wrote: Yesterday, I did navigation to my work place here in Warsaw using Osmand o my G2. The route I was given led through Warsaw Old Town. The problem with this is, the Old Town is closed to most vehicles, year long, except for special vehicles (shop supply, city services etc). Thus, the route was completely useless since I'm not a firetruck driver. How can this problem be resolved, so OSM routers can generate more useful? that sounds like a highway=pedestrian to me. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing
On 2012-12-23 23:53, Chris Hill wrote: On 23/12/12 15:41, Stan Berka wrote: Yesterday, I did navigation to my work place here in Warsaw using Osmand o my G2. The route I was given led through Warsaw Old Town. The problem with this is, the Old Town is closed to most vehicles, year long, except for special vehicles (shop supply, city services etc). Thus, the route was completely useless since I'm not a firetruck driver. How can this problem be resolved, so OSM routers can generate more useful? that sounds like a highway=pedestrian to me. You could add a access=destination to it. Then routing should be done only to addresses on those roads and the roads should not be used to go from A to B. Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing
On 12/24/2012 12:42 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2012-12-23 23:53, Chris Hill wrote: that sounds like a highway=pedestrian to me. You could add a access=destination to it. Then routing should be done only to addresses on those roads and the roads should not be used to go from A to B. As long as you don't do both at the same time .. -- --- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing
Tagging with access:no usually does the trick :) Just see here for a list of access tags - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access cheers, ingalls On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Stan Berka stan.be...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday, I did navigation to my work place here in Warsaw using Osmand o my G2. The route I was given led through Warsaw Old Town. The problem with this is, the Old Town is closed to most vehicles, year long, except for special vehicles (shop supply, city services etc). Thus, the route was completely useless since I'm not a firetruck driver. How can this problem be resolved, so OSM routers can generate more useful? droidguy ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] permament access restrictions and routing
if fire trucks are permitted, then use access=no emergency=yes On 12/23/12 11:20 AM, nicholas ingalls wrote: Tagging with access:no usually does the trick :) Just see here for a list of access tags - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Access cheers, ingalls On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Stan Berka stan.be...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday, I did navigation to my work place here in Warsaw using Osmand o my G2. The route I was given led through Warsaw Old Town. The problem with this is, the Old Town is closed to most vehicles, year long, except for special vehicles (shop supply, city services etc). Thus, the route was completely useless since I'm not a firetruck driver. How can this problem be resolved, so OSM routers can generate more useful? droidguy ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
