Re: [OSM-talk] positioning of barrier = stile
I always put stiles and gates offset from any vehicular highway just near the beginning of the relevant pedestrian way - even if this means creating a stub for the pedestrian way where this has yet to be surveyed (and then the stub also serves as a reminder to go back and do the additional mapping!). The problems with placing the barrier on the vehicular highway or at the intersection node are clear! Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Lennard [mailto:l...@xs4all.nl] Sent: 15 November 2009 16:30 To: Talk OSM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] positioning of barrier = stile David Groom wrote: I have been doing the former, but it appears this might stop routing applications allowing a car to travel from c - d as the barrier = stile blocks the road to vehicle transport, and so the second tagging option might be better. It seems you already answered your own question. Having the node with the barrier in the c-d road would make it also be a stile that is blocking travel in that road. I've used your 2nd tagging, with the node with the stile a small distance away from the connecting road. -- Lennard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] positioning of barrier = stile
Richard Bullock wrote: My query relates to where a footway joins a road and there is a stile. say a- b is footway , and c - d is road Should the stile be placed at b c | | a--b | | d or should I put in a node e and tag that with barrier = stile: c | | a---e-b | | d I have been doing the former, but it appears this might stop routing applications allowing a car to travel from c - d as the barrier = stile blocks the road to vehicle transport, and so the second tagging option might be better. I've always tagged the stile where it actually is (via geo-tagged photo). I would therefore use the 2nd option, but my positioning of node 'e' will depend on where my photo says it is. Regardless of routing applications; the best option here is to ask yourself how many stiles are there on the road between c to d. If the answer is none, then the way c-d should not have any node tagged as a stile. Not sure if you actually keep the path separate but I'd show it like this where the path is joined to the road with the stile set back Remember the ways are representing the centrelines of the route so a stile is always set back a bit by half the width of the road plus any verges, paths etc. c | | a--e--b | | d Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] positioning of barrier = stile
Should be this: or should I put in a node e and tag that with barrier = stile: c | | a---e-b | | d or, better c . . . a..e.b . d because the path has to actually join the road. b is the node of intersection. Nick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] positioning of barrier = stile
My query relates to where a footway joins a road and there is a stile. say a- b is footway , and c - d is road Should the stile be placed at b c | | a--b | | d or should I put in a node e and tag that with barrier = stile: c | | a---e-b | | d I have been doing the former, but it appears this might stop routing applications allowing a car to travel from c - d as the barrier = stile blocks the road to vehicle transport, and so the second tagging option might be better. David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] positioning of barrier = stile
David Groom wrote: I have been doing the former, but it appears this might stop routing applications allowing a car to travel from c - d as the barrier = stile blocks the road to vehicle transport, and so the second tagging option might be better. It seems you already answered your own question. Having the node with the barrier in the c-d road would make it also be a stile that is blocking travel in that road. I've used your 2nd tagging, with the node with the stile a small distance away from the connecting road. -- Lennard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] positioning of barrier = stile
David Groom writes: My query relates to where a footway joins a road and there is a stile. say a- b is footway , and c - d is road Should the stile be placed at b [...] or should I put in a node e and tag that with barrier = stile: [...] The additional node e is necessary. If there is a barrier on a node that is part of the c-d road, that barrier does block traffic on c-d. Tobias Knerr ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] positioning of barrier = stile
David Groom wrote: I have been doing the former, but it appears this might stop routing applications allowing a car to travel from c - d as the barrier = stile blocks the road to vehicle transport, and so the second tagging option might be better. Indeed it is. If it helps, think of a way for a road as representing the centreline of the road, rather than its entire width. That way having the stile node offset using a short length of footway doesn't seem so odd. -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] positioning of barrier = stile
My query relates to where a footway joins a road and there is a stile. say a- b is footway , and c - d is road Should the stile be placed at b c | | a--b | | d or should I put in a node e and tag that with barrier = stile: c | | a---e-b | | d I have been doing the former, but it appears this might stop routing applications allowing a car to travel from c - d as the barrier = stile blocks the road to vehicle transport, and so the second tagging option might be better. I've always tagged the stile where it actually is (via geo-tagged photo). I would therefore use the 2nd option, but my positioning of node 'e' will depend on where my photo says it is. Regardless of routing applications; the best option here is to ask yourself how many stiles are there on the road between c to d. If the answer is none, then the way c-d should not have any node tagged as a stile. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
