Re: [OSM-talk] scuba dive sites
2010/5/22 Nic Roets : >> So, you have noticed there are people tagging something as something else to >> get it rendered (commonly known as "tagging for the renderer"). That doesn't >> make it right or turn it into it's opposite meaning. > > I'm just afraid that a year from now, someone will come along and > invent 6 new tags (head, bay, peak, gulf etc) and immediately retag > those as he sees fit. Because that is exactly what happened to > sport=diving. I would prefer using them, if the tagging is better (just imported 130 dive spots in the netherlands with tag sport=scuba_diving :) Does someone know how often openseamap updates ? Best regards Rob ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] scuba dive sites
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Cartinus wrote: > On Saturday 22 May 2010 15:40:25 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: >> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:57, Cartinus wrote: >> > On Saturday 22 May 2010 11:27:08 Nic Roets wrote: >> >> > I've seen some dive sites tagged as place=locality >> >> >> >> AFAIK, place=locality indicates a place where people stay... >> > >> > No, locality was introduced for named geographic places where nobody >> > lives. OK. Thanks. The wiki describes it nicely. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place=locality >> >> Maybe, but in practice place=locality gets tacked on to a lot of >> random stuff you'd like to have rendered *now*. > > So, you have noticed there are people tagging something as something else to > get it rendered (commonly known as "tagging for the renderer"). That doesn't > make it right or turn it into it's opposite meaning. I'm just afraid that a year from now, someone will come along and invent 6 new tags (head, bay, peak, gulf etc) and immediately retag those as he sees fit. Because that is exactly what happened to sport=diving. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] scuba dive sites
On Saturday 22 May 2010 15:40:25 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:57, Cartinus wrote: > > On Saturday 22 May 2010 11:27:08 Nic Roets wrote: > >> > I've seen some dive sites tagged as place=locality > >> > >> AFAIK, place=locality indicates a place where people stay... > > > > No, locality was introduced for named geographic places where nobody > > lives. > > Maybe, but in practice place=locality gets tacked on to a lot of > random stuff you'd like to have rendered *now*. So, you have noticed there are people tagging something as something else to get it rendered (commonly known as "tagging for the renderer"). That doesn't make it right or turn it into it's opposite meaning. -- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] scuba dive sites
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:57, Cartinus wrote: > On Saturday 22 May 2010 11:27:08 Nic Roets wrote: >> > I've seen some dive sites tagged as place=locality >> >> AFAIK, place=locality indicates a place where people stay... > > No, locality was introduced for named geographic places where nobody lives. Maybe, but in practice place=locality gets tacked on to a lot of random stuff you'd like to have rendered *now*. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] scuba dive sites
On Saturday 22 May 2010 11:27:08 Nic Roets wrote: > > I've seen some dive sites tagged as place=locality > > AFAIK, place=locality indicates a place where people stay... No, locality was introduced for named geographic places where nobody lives. -- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] scuba dive sites
On 22 May 2010 19:27, Nic Roets wrote: >> I've seen some dive sites tagged as place=locality > > AFAIK, place=locality indicates a place where people stay... Where does it say that on the wiki? >From Map_Features page: "An unpopulated, named place." ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] scuba dive sites
Joe Richards wrote: > On searching, I have seen several pages and proposals in the wiki for > scuba diving sites and for dive shops. I am currently tagging up the > island of Utila, Honduras, which is well known for its diving. What > can I use as a basic tag type for these two things (a dive location > and a dive shop which sells courses, provides equipment etc)? > There's a proposal in the wiki about diving: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/scuba_diving I'd try these tags for a few sites to see how they work. I don't think this stuff will render on the main Mapnik map yet. The suggestion on the wiki is to render it on OpenSeaMap. You could also produce a custom map for the island, rendering what you choose to include. Cheers, Chris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] scuba dive sites
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 7:39 AM, John Smith wrote: > On 22 May 2010 14:40, Joe Richards wrote: >> On searching, I have seen several pages and proposals in the wiki for scuba >> diving sites and for dive shops. I am currently tagging up the island of >> Utila, Honduras, which is well known for its diving. What can I use as a >> basic tag type for these two things (a dive location and a dive shop which >> sells courses, provides equipment etc)? Judging from edits make by 'staehler', the sport=scuba_diving tag and shop=scuba_diving tag should be used. Sport=diving tag is no longer correct. (See my message to him below). http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4297296 > > I've seen some dive sites tagged as place=locality AFAIK, place=locality indicates a place where people stay... -- Hello, >From your edits, I assume that the sport=diving tag should no longer be used for scuba diving spots: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/31567779/history Can you please update the wiki page ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport=diving?uselang=en Regards, Nic ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] scuba dive sites
On 22 May 2010 14:40, Joe Richards wrote: > On searching, I have seen several pages and proposals in the wiki for scuba > diving sites and for dive shops. I am currently tagging up the island of > Utila, Honduras, which is well known for its diving. What can I use as a > basic tag type for these two things (a dive location and a dive shop which > sells courses, provides equipment etc)? I've seen some dive sites tagged as place=locality ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] scuba dive sites
On searching, I have seen several pages and proposals in the wiki for scuba diving sites and for dive shops. I am currently tagging up the island of Utila, Honduras, which is well known for its diving. What can I use as a basic tag type for these two things (a dive location and a dive shop which sells courses, provides equipment etc)? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
