Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 60, Issue 157
On 25/08/2009, at 9:37 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: What is everyone's preference? I quite like the relation described at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Relation:type%3Dstop In fact, that relation avoids the need to split the way at the junction if the stop sign applies in both directions along the way through the junction. I like the idea of that, but think it might be better if the member ways had roles like 'stop' or 'give_way'. I know several intersections which have both Stop and Give Way signs, so being able to use a single flow-control relation to represent both of them would be nice. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 60, Issue 157
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:00 +1000 From: Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop To: Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk Cc: OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 71fcecde0908241454t1e365257h7a1a861e4c008...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote: That's right. There's two acceptable approaches to dealing with this: 1) use a relation to relate the way and intersection - for this, I see nothing wrong with http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Relation:type%3Dstop or 2) use a way and an implicit reference to a node to relate the way and intersection - this is what David is proposing here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:stop The implicit reference to a node is in the form of at_first_node/at_last_node, etc. Using a relation has some advantages: * it connects the stop requirement to the junction node (you can look at the junction node to see that there is a stop requirement) * if the way leading to the junction is split/reversed, the relation still works (although it will have two way members, so it's slightly broken) With the current editors, it's not hard to add relations, and a stop relation is almost self evident how it works when viewing it, but the tags proposed for the way needs to be looked up to be understandable. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 60, Issue 157
2009/8/25 Martin Norbäck mar...@norpan.org: Using a relation has some advantages: * it connects the stop requirement to the junction node (you can look at the junction node to see that there is a stop requirement) * if the way leading to the junction is split/reversed, the relation still works (although it will have two way members, so it's slightly broken) With the current editors, it's not hard to add relations, and a stop relation is almost self evident how it works when viewing it, but the tags proposed for the way needs to be looked up to be understandable. Yep. On the other hand, tagging a way has an advantage: it avoids the need to add a relation. What is everyone's preference? I quite like the relation described at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Relation:type%3Dstop In fact, that relation avoids the need to split the way at the junction if the stop sign applies in both directions along the way through the junction. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk