Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] How can the US get its stuff together? (was Re: Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap)

2010-10-16 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
 * Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net [2010-10-14 10:47 -0700]:
 I think you could largely sum up his criticisms in two broad headings:

    1. US OSM contributors need to get their shit together
    2. European maps don't look like American ones

 I'm trying to see what sort of consensus exists on some of the issues from
 41 latitude's post.  I've sent an email to the talk-us list[0] asking for
 feedback and discussion.  I encourage anyone who's interested, particulary
 people who map in the US, to contribute to the discussion on that list.

  [0]: 
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-October/004361.html

The North American interest in highway signs may be difficult to
understand around the world.  If I remember correctly one of our
Euro-colleagues referred to highway shields as looking a bit naff.
I think that means good though.

So, highways and road culture play a large role in the life of many
North Americans, there are even songs that we know like Route 66, and
Highway 61 that show affection for specific roads.  There are others.
Many others.  I was surprised to find this list of road songs on the
official US Federal Highway Administration web site.  That may help to
define the scope of the interest (problem) for our friends who don't
see the attraction of highway shields.  Even the humorless official
bodies in North America like a good road song.

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/roadsong.cfm

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] How can the US get its stuff together? (was Re: Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap)

2010-10-16 Thread Richard
On Saturday 16 October 2010 13:46:44 Richard Weait wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
  * Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net [2010-10-14 10:47 -0700]:
  I think you could largely sum up his criticisms in two broad headings:
  
 1. US OSM contributors need to get their shit together
 2. European maps don't look like American ones
  
  I'm trying to see what sort of consensus exists on some of the issues
  from 41 latitude's post.  I've sent an email to the talk-us list[0]
  asking for feedback and discussion.  I encourage anyone who's
  interested, particulary people who map in the US, to contribute to the
  discussion on that list.
  
   [0]:
  http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-October/004361.htm
  l
 
 The North American interest in highway signs may be difficult to
 understand around the world.  If I remember correctly one of our
 Euro-colleagues referred to highway shields as looking a bit naff.
 I think that means good though.
 
 So, highways and road culture play a large role in the life of many
 North Americans, there are even songs that we know like Route 66, and
 Highway 61 that show affection for specific roads.  There are others.
 Many others.  I was surprised to find this list of road songs on the
 official US Federal Highway Administration web site.  That may help to
 define the scope of the interest (problem) for our friends who don't
 see the attraction of highway shields.  Even the humorless official
 bodies in North America like a good road song.
 
 http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/roadsong.cfm
 
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FYI, as a Brit, naff = Something that is poorly thought out, doesn’t really 
work, or is otherwise not very good. (Apologies to Wikipedia)
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] How can the US get its stuff together? (was Re: Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap)

2010-10-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
 I wonder if it's worth the trouble and effort to maintain US-HISTORIC
 routes, since their use is primarily recreational and are frequently
 inconsistent in their continued existence, and frequently their historic
 posted alignments.  For example, OK-66 goes through Kellyville, though
 the old US-66 alignment now runs abandoned and without pavement through
 the property I'm on...

Since Historic US 66 is (I believe) posted in every state, yes, it
should have relations. These relations shouldn't include abandoned
roads that aren't marked as part of the historic route, however.

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