Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:06 PM, enqd  wrote:

> Hi Anthony, I follow Openaerialmap, but as you said I don't know when
> the service will be up.
> I'll wait an answer from Ian Dees to see if he will host it, so maybe
> when OAM be running we can transfer the data to them.
>
>
Can you let me know what the 4 different directories are? They seem like 4
different orthophoto "projects" with different data. Were they taken at
different times? In different locations?

Should I be downloading all 4 of the directories or just one of them?
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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Aun Johnsen
It should be a good carrot for OAM to know that we are talking about 5
Brazillian states complete, if I remember right, the states of Santa
Catarina, São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Minas Gerais and Goias. Too bad
my state of Espírito Santo isn't covered.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:06 PM, enqd  wrote:
> Hi Anthony, I follow Openaerialmap, but as you said I don't know when
> the service will be up.
> I'll wait an answer from Ian Dees to see if he will host it, so maybe
> when OAM be running we can transfer the data to them.
>
> 2010/1/6 Anthony :
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, enqd  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, I'm really happy that people want to host it. Answering questions:
>>> I'm newbie, I don't know how things works, I just would like to see
>>> the images able to be used on Potlatch, something like what Nearmaps
>>> did.
>>
>> If you can't find anyone willing to do that, please upload the files
>> temporarily to Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org/create/) so that we
>> can get them hosted when OpenAerialMap (or some other similar service) is up
>> and running and able to accept them.  Once you have the files uploaded there
>> (or somewhere else where they are reasonably accessible - the host you
>> currently have them at doesn't appear able to handle the bandwidth), send a
>> message to the OAM mailing list (t...@openaerialmap.org).  In my experience
>> they are quite a long way from being able to help you, but hopefully a nice
>> donation of imagery will help spur them into action.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread enqd
Hi Anthony, I follow Openaerialmap, but as you said I don't know when
the service will be up.
I'll wait an answer from Ian Dees to see if he will host it, so maybe
when OAM be running we can transfer the data to them.

2010/1/6 Anthony :
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, enqd  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I'm really happy that people want to host it. Answering questions:
>> I'm newbie, I don't know how things works, I just would like to see
>> the images able to be used on Potlatch, something like what Nearmaps
>> did.
>
> If you can't find anyone willing to do that, please upload the files
> temporarily to Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org/create/) so that we
> can get them hosted when OpenAerialMap (or some other similar service) is up
> and running and able to accept them.  Once you have the files uploaded there
> (or somewhere else where they are reasonably accessible - the host you
> currently have them at doesn't appear able to handle the bandwidth), send a
> message to the OAM mailing list (t...@openaerialmap.org).  In my experience
> they are quite a long way from being able to help you, but hopefully a nice
> donation of imagery will help spur them into action.
>
> Anthony
>

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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:38 PM, enqd  wrote:

> Hi, I'm really happy that people want to host it. Answering questions:
> I'm newbie, I don't know how things works, I just would like to see
> the images able to be used on Potlatch, something like what Nearmaps
> did.
>

If you can't find anyone willing to do that, please upload the files
temporarily to Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org/create/) so that we
can get them hosted when OpenAerialMap (or some other similar service) is up
and running and able to accept them.  Once you have the files uploaded there
(or somewhere else where they are reasonably accessible - the host you
currently have them at doesn't appear able to handle the bandwidth), send a
message to the OAM mailing list (t...@openaerialmap.org).  In my experience
they are quite a long way from being able to help you, but hopefully a nice
donation of imagery will help spur them into action.

Anthony
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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Aun Johnsen
I think this have been stated 3 or 4 times in this thread already,
that this data is PD.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Arlindo Pereira
 wrote:
> On an email asking that they said: (roughly translation)
>
> "The content in our portal is public domain. However their utilization
> in other portals or publications is conditioned to citing the source,
> when utilizing our data. It is possible to reproduce the graphs, art
> and images that are together, since you cite the source (IBGE)."
>
> The "graphs, art and images" is because it is a geography and
> statistics institute, but I'm sure it applies to the aerial photos. We
> have already imported and are in process of importing GPS tracks and
> traces from obscure proprietary formats after conversion of roads,
> boundaries and so on. We just have to put the tag "source=IBGE" in
> everything and it's OK.
>
> Arlindo "Nighto" Pereira
>
> 2010/1/6 enqd :
>> Hi Martin, I don't know the specific license, but the email I received said:
>> Can be used for any purpose, need only cite the source.
>>
>> 2010/1/6 Martin Koppenhoefer :
>>> 2010/1/6 enqd 

 Hi, I'm really happy that people want to host it. Answering questions:
 I'm newbie, I don't know how things works, I just would like to see
 the images able to be used on Potlatch, something like what Nearmaps
 did.
>>>
>>>
>>> just to be sure (as you're a newby): under what kind of license are the
>>> pictures released? Do they allow commercial use of their fotos or the use in
>>> OSM for tracing?
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Martin
>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Arlindo Pereira
On an email asking that they said: (roughly translation)

"The content in our portal is public domain. However their utilization
in other portals or publications is conditioned to citing the source,
when utilizing our data. It is possible to reproduce the graphs, art
and images that are together, since you cite the source (IBGE)."

The "graphs, art and images" is because it is a geography and
statistics institute, but I'm sure it applies to the aerial photos. We
have already imported and are in process of importing GPS tracks and
traces from obscure proprietary formats after conversion of roads,
boundaries and so on. We just have to put the tag "source=IBGE" in
everything and it's OK.

Arlindo "Nighto" Pereira

2010/1/6 enqd :
> Hi Martin, I don't know the specific license, but the email I received said:
> Can be used for any purpose, need only cite the source.
>
> 2010/1/6 Martin Koppenhoefer :
>> 2010/1/6 enqd 
>>>
>>> Hi, I'm really happy that people want to host it. Answering questions:
>>> I'm newbie, I don't know how things works, I just would like to see
>>> the images able to be used on Potlatch, something like what Nearmaps
>>> did.
>>
>>
>> just to be sure (as you're a newby): under what kind of license are the
>> pictures released? Do they allow commercial use of their fotos or the use in
>> OSM for tracing?
>>
>> cheers,
>> Martin
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread enqd
Hi Martin, I don't know the specific license, but the email I received said:
Can be used for any purpose, need only cite the source.

2010/1/6 Martin Koppenhoefer :
> 2010/1/6 enqd 
>>
>> Hi, I'm really happy that people want to host it. Answering questions:
>> I'm newbie, I don't know how things works, I just would like to see
>> the images able to be used on Potlatch, something like what Nearmaps
>> did.
>
>
> just to be sure (as you're a newby): under what kind of license are the
> pictures released? Do they allow commercial use of their fotos or the use in
> OSM for tracing?
>
> cheers,
> Martin
>

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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/1/6 enqd 

> Hi, I'm really happy that people want to host it. Answering questions:
> I'm newbie, I don't know how things works, I just would like to see
> the images able to be used on Potlatch, something like what Nearmaps
> did.
>


just to be sure (as you're a newby): under what kind of license are the
pictures released? Do they allow commercial use of their fotos or the use in
OSM for tracing?

cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread enqd
Hi, I'm really happy that people want to host it. Answering questions:
I'm newbie, I don't know how things works, I just would like to see
the images able to be used on Potlatch, something like what Nearmaps
did.
Ian Dees: I didn't find any alternate host. All messages about host
the images are on this topic.
Will you do this? If yes, let us know how it's going.
And yes It's Portuguese.

Really thanks.


2010/1/6 Aun Johnsen :
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:56 PM, enqd  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, I'm newbie on OSM and as I can see we have only Yahoo imagery as
>>> base to map some cities on Brasil (only some bigger ones)
>>> Recently I read on  wiki that a service called nearmaps host maps to
>>> be used on OSM.
>>> I know a service on Brazil that have some ortophotos free, all can use
>>> it (services that use the images only need to specify that images are
>>> from IBGE source)
>>> I would like to ask if OSM or anyone can host this images to be used on
>>> OSM.
>>> The images are here:
>>> ftp://geoftp.ibge.gov.br/mapas/ortofoto/
>>>
>>> Will be great to Brazilian users if we have this images as base to add
>>> streets and places on OSM.
>>> Hope someone can host it, thanks.
>>>
>>
>> Does anyone know what the projection is on these? I can't read spanish, so
>> I'm of no use when Googling.
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> First of all it is not Spanish, but Portuguese.
>
> According to information printed on the PDF versions of the ortofotos:
>
> Projection system UTM zone 24
> Vertical datum: IMBITUBA - SC
> Horizontal datum: SIRGAS2000
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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Aun Johnsen
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:56 PM, enqd  wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I'm newbie on OSM and as I can see we have only Yahoo imagery as
>> base to map some cities on Brasil (only some bigger ones)
>> Recently I read on  wiki that a service called nearmaps host maps to
>> be used on OSM.
>> I know a service on Brazil that have some ortophotos free, all can use
>> it (services that use the images only need to specify that images are
>> from IBGE source)
>> I would like to ask if OSM or anyone can host this images to be used on
>> OSM.
>> The images are here:
>> ftp://geoftp.ibge.gov.br/mapas/ortofoto/
>>
>> Will be great to Brazilian users if we have this images as base to add
>> streets and places on OSM.
>> Hope someone can host it, thanks.
>>
>
> Does anyone know what the projection is on these? I can't read spanish, so
> I'm of no use when Googling.
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First of all it is not Spanish, but Portuguese.

According to information printed on the PDF versions of the ortofotos:

Projection system UTM zone 24
Vertical datum: IMBITUBA - SC
Horizontal datum: SIRGAS2000

Hope that helps you

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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-06 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:56 PM, enqd  wrote:

> Hi, I'm newbie on OSM and as I can see we have only Yahoo imagery as
> base to map some cities on Brasil (only some bigger ones)
> Recently I read on  wiki that a service called nearmaps host maps to
> be used on OSM.
> I know a service on Brazil that have some ortophotos free, all can use
> it (services that use the images only need to specify that images are
> from IBGE source)
> I would like to ask if OSM or anyone can host this images to be used on
> OSM.
> The images are here:
> ftp://geoftp.ibge.gov.br/mapas/ortofoto/
>
> Will be great to Brazilian users if we have this images as base to add
> streets and places on OSM.
> Hope someone can host it, thanks.
>
>
Does anyone know what the projection is on these? I can't read spanish, so
I'm of no use when Googling.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-05 Thread Jeremy Adams
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:56 PM, enqd  wrote:

> Hi, I'm newbie on OSM and as I can see we have only Yahoo imagery as
> base to map some cities on Brasil (only some bigger ones)
> Recently I read on  wiki that a service called nearmaps host maps to
> be used on OSM.
> I know a service on Brazil that have some ortophotos free, all can use
> it (services that use the images only need to specify that images are
> from IBGE source)
> I would like to ask if OSM or anyone can host this images to be used on
> OSM.
> The images are here:
> ftp://geoftp.ibge.gov.br/mapas/ortofoto/
>
> Will be great to Brazilian users if we have this images as base to add
> streets and places on OSM.
> Hope someone can host it, thanks.
>

I may be able to help, but I'd need to know how you want the files hosted.
Dumb file hosting on a webserver would be easy.  Anything else might be
harder.

-Jeremy
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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-05 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:56 PM, enqd  wrote:

> Hi, I'm newbie on OSM and as I can see we have only Yahoo imagery as
> base to map some cities on Brasil (only some bigger ones)
> Recently I read on  wiki that a service called nearmaps host maps to
> be used on OSM.
> I know a service on Brazil that have some ortophotos free, all can use
> it (services that use the images only need to specify that images are
> from IBGE source)
> I would like to ask if OSM or anyone can host this images to be used on
> OSM.
> The images are here:
> ftp://geoftp.ibge.gov.br/mapas/ortofoto/
>
> Will be great to Brazilian users if we have this images as base to add
> streets and places on OSM.
> Hope someone can host it, thanks.
>
>
I'm working on downloading the images and will attempt to host them in the
near future. Let me (and the list) know if you find alternate hosting.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-05 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:56 PM, enqd  wrote:

> I would like to ask if OSM or anyone can host this images to be used on
> OSM.
> The images are here:
> ftp://geoftp.ibge.gov.br/mapas/ortofoto/
>

Hmm, what format do you want it to be hosted in?
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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-05 Thread maning sambale
You can also ask Andy:
http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2009/12/09/the-view-from-above/

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Stefan de Konink  wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, enqd wrote:
>
>> I would like to ask if OSM or anyone can host this images to be used on OSM.
>> The images are here:
>> ftp://geoftp.ibge.gov.br/mapas/ortofoto/
>>
>> Will be great to Brazilian users if we have this images as base to add
>> streets and places on OSM.
>> Hope someone can host it, thanks.
>
> OpenAerialMap is probably your biggest chance for hosting.
>
>
> Stefan
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Host free ortophotos to be used on OSM

2010-01-05 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, enqd wrote:

> I would like to ask if OSM or anyone can host this images to be used on OSM.
> The images are here:
> ftp://geoftp.ibge.gov.br/mapas/ortofoto/
>
> Will be great to Brazilian users if we have this images as base to add
> streets and places on OSM.
> Hope someone can host it, thanks.

OpenAerialMap is probably your biggest chance for hosting.


Stefan


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