Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-29 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:15:27 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote:

> Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution?

Regarding attribution, I see the text on Attribution page on WIKI but 
can't find any image with OSM LOGO image with Attribution text...

I searched WIKI but just don't don't see any. Could you help and point me 
to an image that could be put on this and on any other printed map.

Legal WIKI is nice but not practical, it would be better to just say 
"stick this image on your map and you are OK" ;)



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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-29 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Valent Turkovic wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:15:27 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote:
>
>> Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution?
>
> Just got info that it will be printed on a sticker and added. Looks like
> a misunderstanding at the print shop.
>

excellent! let's hope that will attract some more mappers to
openstreetmap, male and female!

greetings,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-29 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 07:41:00 -0700, Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio wrote:

> what do you mean by "All data was collected by Jhabjan"? In the history
> of that bounding box I can see lots of contributions from different
> users...


There are minor edits, but AFAIK JHabjan did over 90% od data collection, 
talked with Tourist Board, promoted OSM on every event possible, got 
local aerial club to donate images, etc, etc...


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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:02:29 +0200, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:

> Hey, this SotM we did female t-shirts (tank tops). And we ran out of
> them, which IMHO means we got more women than expected. Which is a good
> thing.

Of guys made their girlfriends wear them ;)

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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:15:27 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote:

> Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution?

Just got info that it will be printed on a sticker and added. Looks like 
a misunderstanding at the print shop.



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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Jonathan Bennett

On 28/07/2010 14:57, Floris Looijesteijn wrote:


But the girl is worth image of the week anyhow...


http://xkcd.com/322/


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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Liz
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010, Adam Killian wrote:
> > But the girl is worth image of the week anyhow...
> >
> > 
> 
> Could we please not talk about the girl anymore?  This is the kind of
> behavior that can drive women away from open source projects and geekery
> in general.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Stefan de Konink

On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Adam Killian wrote:


On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 15:57 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote:


But the girl is worth image of the week anyhow...



Could we please not talk about the girl anymore?  This is the kind of
behavior that can drive women away from open source projects and geekery
in general.

I would prefer we not have a situation like the infamous CouchDB
fiasco[1] in OSM.

[1] - http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/CouchDB_talk


After the GSoC summit last year where about 3 hours where totaly devoted 
to being inclusive rather than exclusive. The hole concept 'the girl' 
doesn't even bothers the persons having the XX in their genome 
participating in projects.


Off-list harrasment was actually the core issue.

Now if someone would like to talk about 'the girl' or how pretty she was. 
Please do so, and next mapping party take your girlfriends friends with 
you. Or start younger and do a kids party with housenumber mapping.



Stefan

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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El día Wednesday 28 July 2010 16:45:17, Richard Mann dijo:
> +1
>
> Just after each SOTM, image of the week is a photo of the particpants.
> Almost exclusively male.

Hey, this SotM we did female t-shirts (tank tops). And we ran out of them, 
which IMHO means we got more women than expected. Which is a good thing.


Best,
-- 
Iván Sánchez Ortega 

Un ordenador no es una televisión ni un microondas: es una herramienta 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Richard Mann
+1

Just after each SOTM, image of the week is a photo of the particpants.
Almost exclusively male.

Richard

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Adam Killian  wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 15:57 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote:
>
>> But the girl is worth image of the week anyhow...
>>
>
> Could we please not talk about the girl anymore?  This is the kind of
> behavior that can drive women away from open source projects and geekery
> in general.
>
> I would prefer we not have a situation like the infamous CouchDB
> fiasco[1] in OSM.
>
> [1] - http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/CouchDB_talk
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio
--- On Wed, 7/28/10, Adam Killian  wrote:

> From: Adam Killian 
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal
> To: "Floris Looijesteijn" 
> Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 4:29 PM
> On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 15:57 +0200,
> Floris Looijesteijn wrote:
> 
> > But the girl is worth image of the week anyhow...
> > 
> 
> Could we please not talk about the girl anymore?  This
> is the kind of
> behavior that can drive women away from open source
> projects and geekery
> in general.
> 
> I would prefer we not have a situation like the infamous
> CouchDB
> fiasco[1] in OSM.
> 
> [1] - http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/CouchDB_talk
> 

LOL, girls are far less stupid than you think.

Regarding the map of Sinj:

what do you mean by "All data was collected by Jhabjan"? In the history of that 
bounding box I can see lots of contributions from different users...


Regards
Juan Lucas


  

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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Adam Killian
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 15:57 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote:

> But the girl is worth image of the week anyhow...
> 

Could we please not talk about the girl anymore?  This is the kind of
behavior that can drive women away from open source projects and geekery
in general.

I would prefer we not have a situation like the infamous CouchDB
fiasco[1] in OSM.

[1] - http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/CouchDB_talk


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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
andrzej zaborowski wrote:
> It's a non-exclusive license though, so you can upload your data to
> OSM and still upload it to other projects with different licenses.
> Also someone mentioned it doesn't matter which path the data travelled
> to the user (i.e. which project it was retrieved from), so by my logic
> CC-By-SA doesn't apply.

I agree, but that would mean this image was not made with OSM data. Only
with data that is also in OSM. Then, image of the week worthiness is
arguable.

But the girl is worth image of the week anyhow...

Greetings,
Floris Looijesteijn

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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hi,

On 28 July 2010 15:28, Ian Dees  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:43 AM, andrzej zaborowski 
> wrote:
>>
>> On 28 July 2010 13:15, Floris Looijesteijn  wrote:
>> > Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution?
>>
>> Since all data was collected by one mapper, their consent would be
>> enough to allow publication without the attribution.
>>
>
> Not to derail the topic, but I don't think that's necessarily true. Since
> the mapper uploaded the data to OSMF's servers (thereby licensing the data
> to OSMF), doesn't the CC-BY-SA license still apply?

It's a non-exclusive license though, so you can upload your data to
OSM and still upload it to other projects with different licenses.
Also someone mentioned it doesn't matter which path the data travelled
to the user (i.e. which project it was retrieved from), so by my logic
CC-By-SA doesn't apply.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:51 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 28 July 2010 15:28, Ian Dees  wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:43 AM, andrzej zaborowski 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 28 July 2010 13:15, Floris Looijesteijn  wrote:
> >> > Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution?
> >>
> >> Since all data was collected by one mapper, their consent would be
> >> enough to allow publication without the attribution.
> >>
> >
> > Not to derail the topic, but I don't think that's necessarily true. Since
> > the mapper uploaded the data to OSMF's servers (thereby licensing the
> data
> > to OSMF), doesn't the CC-BY-SA license still apply?
>
> It's a non-exclusive license though, so you can upload your data to
> OSM and still upload it to other projects with different licenses.
> Also someone mentioned it doesn't matter which path the data travelled
> to the user (i.e. which project it was retrieved from), so by my logic
> CC-By-SA doesn't apply.
>
>
Ok, cool. The map looks great!
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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:43 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote:

> On 28 July 2010 13:15, Floris Looijesteijn  wrote:
> > Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution?
>
> Since all data was collected by one mapper, their consent would be
> enough to allow publication without the attribution.
>
>
Not to derail the topic, but I don't think that's necessarily true. Since
the mapper uploaded the data to OSMF's servers (thereby licensing the data
to OSMF), doesn't the CC-BY-SA license still apply?
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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio
 wrote:
> Hello, nice map!
> And the girl in the left margin is a master stroke!
> Regards

Thanks, I just did some basic photo correction in GIMP, photo was
taken by JHabjan, but I knew had a feeling that girl in left margin
would be missed if cropped ;)

Cheers,
Valent.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Floris Looijesteijn  wrote:
>
> Nice map, great exposure!
>
> Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution?
>
> Greets,
> Floris

I'll ask JHabjan because he is OSM contributer who made this.

Cheers,
Valent.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 28 July 2010 13:15, Floris Looijesteijn  wrote:
> Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution?

Since all data was collected by one mapper, their consent would be
enough to allow publication without the attribution.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio
Hello, nice map!
And the girl in the left margin is a master stroke!
Regards


--- On Wed, 7/28/10, Floris Looijesteijn  wrote:

> From: Floris Looijesteijn 
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal
> To: "Talk Openstreetmap" 
> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 1:15 PM
> 
> Nice map, great exposure!
> 
> Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution?
> 
> Greets,
> Floris
> 
> Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > This is my first proposal for Image Of The Week so
> please tell me if
> > this proposal is correct:
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_image_proposals#Sinj_town_OSM_map
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> > Valent.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Image Of The Week proposal

2010-07-28 Thread Floris Looijesteijn

Nice map, great exposure!

Bu to be the first: Where's the Openstreetmap attribution?

Greets,
Floris

Valent Turkovic wrote:
> This is my first proposal for Image Of The Week so please tell me if
> this proposal is correct:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_image_proposals#Sinj_town_OSM_map
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Valent.
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