Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading
I'm currently fine with the map features, you can read it if you like/need and search it for stuff. But could we all agree that the two keys which have potentially an endless list of values, the sport and shop keys (and game later for snooker,bowling,etc.), could be moved to a separate page and we just keep an header for these two keys in the Map Features page ? Like someone started a try with shops at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/shops_%28multiple%29 regards, Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading
wiseLYNX schrieb: Stephen Gower wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 12:54:53PM +0100, Pieren Pieren wrote: FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA! +1 I restored the single page. -1 The full page has got way too long to actually be useful. In my opinion, it should include the main options for highways, perhaps the top 12 most used, and then a link to the rest of the key on a seperate page. I could agree with this point, if a _complete_ list is kept anyway somewhere. I don't know about others, but I find the current page very useful as is, because I can use it as quick reference while mapping. FULL ACK! If someone would start a page most useful tags for a newbie I would welcome this, but keep the map features as a reference page ... I'm currently fine with the map features, you can read it if you like/need and search it for stuff. Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Pieren Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but again, the problem is not the templates but PHP on the server has a limited memory and this page takes about 900Kb size of text and pictures (with or without templates). (the error is a not possible to allocate enough memory in parser.php) So, either the memory allocated for PHP is increased or the page is split or its content is reduced. The problem is not the size of the page after processing, but the amount of memory (and indeed time) it takes to process all the complicated embedded templates. I have some little knowledge of problems Wikipedia itself had with this, so please don't dismiss this as ignorant nonsense on my part. -- Abi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading
Chris Hill schrieb: The Map_Features page has really suffered. Having a single page with a list of all the tags was easy to search, now there are various places to search. Can we put it back to a single page plse. FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA! Regards, ULFL P.S: If the templates are the problem, remove them. It's a lot more important to have a usable map features page than to have an easy way for translations ... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading
FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA! +1 I restored the single page. P.S: If the templates are the problem, remove them. It's a lot more important to have a usable map features page than to have an easy way for translations ... Agreed, but again, the problem is not the templates but PHP on the server has a limited memory and this page takes about 900Kb size of text and pictures (with or without templates). (the error is a not possible to allocate enough memory in parser.php) So, either the memory allocated for PHP is increased or the page is split or its content is reduced. regards, Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Pieren Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA! +1 I restored the single page. P.S: If the templates are the problem, remove them. It's a lot more important to have a usable map features page than to have an easy way for translations ... Agreed, but again, the problem is not the templates but PHP on the server has a limited memory and this page takes about 900Kb size of text and pictures (with or without templates). (the error is a not possible to allocate enough memory in parser.php) So, either the memory allocated for PHP is increased or the page is split or its content is reduced. regards, Pieren In this case, pictures will have no effect (other than the extra wiki/html markup) This page on enwiki goes into great depth about the template parsing methods and limits, so may be helpful to finding a solution to our map features problem: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Template_limitsoldid=174802700 -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading
Apparently some people have converted it to about fifteen million embedded meta-templates. I've altered Map_Features to link to the templates rather than include them and it renders now. The someone is myself. I migrated to templates in the middle of January, and this had no impact of the page size. The reason of doing this is to help the internationalization (and synchronization) of this important page, these templates are used in the german, czech, danish, french, italian, russian, turkish, dutch Map Feature pages. This error already raised before the migration to templates. The main reason is that the page weight is inflating because of new features (and more pictures ?). The solution will be to either split the page in 2 or many pages but people like to see all at once (see mail from Chris) or reduce the amount of information (e.g. summarize, remove pics) or fix the problem on the wiki engine. But the current situation is not satisfaying : either restore the templates calls in the main page or add a link to new pages where templates are called. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
