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2012-04-02 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Brain
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[Talk-ht] Email hacked - do not open anything from Adrian on this id today except with 676 in subject

2012-04-02 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Brain
I'm very sorry everybody - for the first time my email has been hacked.

Do not open anything from this id for the forseeable future unless it has 676 
in the subject line.

I'm checking my whole system in detail, though this is the first time anything 
has got through my defences.

Adrian.
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[OSM-talk] Re : wikipedia: towns/cities pages include a osm-direct-link

2010-03-05 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Brain
Hi Colliar,

A link is already there. If the co-ordinates of a place are given in the top 
right this leads to direct links to every map under the sun, and a few others 
too by the look of it.

OpenStreetMap is already in the list, with its copyright, and a further list of 
osm developer projects.

Adrian.




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Please tell me if I am wrong !?

As we are working together with wikipedia, it would be nice to include
direct-links to osm or even a small part of the map to the city/town pages.

I think this would be a good promotion towards osm.
I am not much into editing wikipedia but I just wanted to get the ball rolling.

cheers colliar
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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-03 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Brain
Thanks Andy, after all these years I finally understand cricket. 

My life is complete.

Adrian.


--- On Wed, 3/2/10, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq
To: 'Frederik Ramm' frede...@remote.org, 'Richard Fairhurst' 
rich...@systemed.net
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Date: Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 12:13

Frederik Ramm wrote:
Sent: 03 February 2010 11:38 AM
To: Richard Fairhurst
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

Hi,

Richard Fairhurst wrote:
 That is 300 times more open to misinterpretation than the cycleway
example.
 Yet we cope.

That's because the English have been trained to cope with stuff that
nobody else understands for approximately the last 500 years, by way of
ball games.

--- start quote fixed playing rules ---

There are two sides, one out in the field the other one in. Each man
that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and
the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side
hat's out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get
those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out,
and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in.
There are two men called umpires who stay out all the time and they
decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and
all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all
the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end
of the game.

--- end quote ---

Ah, but the rules have changed. We now have three umpires. The third stays
in but decides if those who are in are out if those umpires who are out are
unsure whether those who are in are out or in. 

This certainly makes the rules a lot simpler don't you think?

Cheers


Andy


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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Brain
+1 from me too.

Perhaps osm-humanitarian to cover future uses?

Adrian 
osmapb1


--- On Wed, 27/1/10, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Pieren pier...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]
To: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
Cc: OSM-talk talk@openstreetmap.org
Date: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 16:58

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:



I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer

helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can

then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.

You say exactly what I'm thinking since a couple of days, but more 
diplomatically.
+1 for an osm-haiti or a more general osm-relief mailing-list. 


Pieren


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[OSM-talk] USGS map areas with street names

2010-01-25 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Brain
Wiki page

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Street_names

contains a section called USGS map areas with street names which contains a 
list of pdf's with osm data overlain on USGS imagery with streetnames missing 
from osm at the time of preparation highlighted - these need adding to osm.

There is nothing to indicate in the wiki which, if any, of these have been 
looked at systematically. Checking several at random has not told me which have 
been done and which haven't, except for the last page which has the No named 
streets in this section comment.

Can anyone say which of these has been done?

Adrian.



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Re: [OSM-talk] USGS map areas with street names

2010-01-25 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Brain
Hi Karl,

I had trouble understanding what these were too. The pdf's are from Delta State 
University  (here) and represent the difference between the road names on the 
USGS maps and the road names on osm.

Names present on the USGS maps but NOT in osm are highlighted in black.

That is very useful, but there are roughly ninety docs with twenty (image) 
pages in each giving 1800 separate comparisons to be made. Also, updates will 
have been made to osm, from other sources, since the extract. So if a name is 
in black in the pdf but now present in osm that still does not indicate whether 
that area has been done or not.

(And that doesn't include the work of actually putting names into osm when they 
are found)

As each pdf is done it needs to be commented as such.

I'm happy to start on the job but want to wait for some time in case anyone has 
already done some of the work. We can't afford to do such large amounts of work 
twice if we can avoid it. It would make sense to work outwards from PaP but it 
is the towns where the comparison is most laborious/time-consuming.

Regards,
Adrian.






--- On Mon, 25/1/10, Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch wrote:

From: Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] USGS map areas with street names
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, 25 January, 2010, 17:34




  
Hi Adrian



I also had a look at these maps and I still don't understand completely
how they relate to OSM. The map already displays the OSMs road network,
but where do the street names in the USGS map come from? They aren't
taken from OSM, are they? Are there indeed two road networks in the
USGS map, one in maroon (from OSM) and one from an unknown source (in
black)?



For my taste, navigation in the PDF atlas is too complicated (for
mappers, people in the field may find it useful) and comparing the
street names manually with names displayed on a slippymap in another
instance is way too complicated too. Are the  USGS maps available as
tiles served by a WMS server?



Regards

Karl 



Am 25.01.2010 18:13, schrieb Adrian Brain:

  

  
Wiki page



http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Street_names



contains a section called USGS map areas with street names which
contains a list of pdf's with osm data overlain on USGS imagery with
streetnames missing from osm at the time of preparation highlighted -
these need adding to osm.



There is nothing to indicate in the wiki which, if any, of these have
been looked at systematically. Checking several at random has not told
me which have been done and which haven't, except for the last page
which has the No named streets in this section comment.



Can anyone say which of these has been done?



Adrian.


  

  
  

  
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Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicated Refugee Camps

2010-01-25 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Brain
Add one vote for this from me.

I think I read somewhere that the World Bank imagery effort was going to be 
spread over several days so would it be possible/sensible/advisable to make the 
automated tag read Source=WorldBank, 2010-01-22/31 or something like it?

(ps note the typo below for Google, it should read 2010-01-17, seventeenth not 
seventh.)

(btw, I was not aware of the 'B' key for the source of the background - good to 
know now)

Regards,
Adrian.



--- On Mon, 25/1/10, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicated Refugee Camps
To: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net, crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
Cc: OSM-talk talk@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, 25 January, 2010, 19:18

This is a great offer (to be able to make potlatch more efficient for
Haiti mapping)

Can the group come to a consensus that it'll be helpful to have the
following codes added to potlatch

Refugee=Yes
Source=Google, 2010-01-7
Source=WorldBank, 2010-01-22

Are there other source codes that people are using frequently, that we
might like to request be added to potlatch?

Here's the wiki page for a reference:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Imagery_and_data_sources#WorldBank_Imagery

Around 6pm EST, I'll start a potlatch ticket (request) based on feedback.

Best Regards,

Margie



On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:

 Margie Roswell wrote:
 Is there a way to put Refugee=Yes and Source=Google,
 2010-01-17 as values in the backend?

 If you guys can come to a consensus as to what tags you'd like to have
 added, then let me know (ideally by starting a ticket at
 http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ with potlatch (flash editor) as the
 component, and a subject line including Haiti)... then I'm more than happy
 to add them to Potlatch.

 cheers
 Richard
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[OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Brain

   See below for the details about P-codes for Haiti.

First, I've just downloaded the xls file (22nd Jan at 12:57hrs (UK)). If anyone 
thinks this is out of date please let me know asap.

Second, I understand the pcode1 and pcode2 columns but not pcode3. Can anyone 
explain the pcode3 column?

Third, if no-one can think of a reason for me not to, I intend to start putting 
in these codes at 14:00hrs (UK), using

un:pcode:2=*

and doing pcode2 first as these are the most obviously do-able.

Adrian Brain (osmapb1)



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P-Codes are an established way for responding agencies to uniquely
identify locations. A set of P-codes have been set for Haiti, and are
listed in the attached spreadsheet. If we can associate these P-codes
with existing nodes in OSM via a tag, would be a great help for
coordinators.

 
Download: http://brainoff.com/osm/Haiti_pcodes consolidated.xls

About 
p-codes:http://www.humanitarianinfo.org/IMToolbox/08_Data_Standards/PCodes/Explanations_Presentations/P-Codes_web_text.htm



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 P-codes for Haiti from the UN. They're in the process of being updated to 
include additional post-earthquake elements

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Brain
Good stuff. It would be useful if you could update 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/MappingCoordination

to show this task has already been done.

Cheers,
Adrian Brain.

 I have attached tags for the majority of pcode level 2 already to towns and 
 villages, using the pcode:2 tags as  suggested on

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Emergency_Response_.26_Relief_Support_Infrastructure

 I believe that the pcode2 should probably refer to an administrative 
 district rather than a place, but it would have been more time consuming in 
 the first instance to break up the current admin boundaries and create 
 relations to make smaller boundaries at the pcode:2 level.  Its probably a 
 task for later.

 David

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  Subject: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

See below for the details about P-codes for Haiti.

First, I've just downloaded the xls file (22nd Jan at 12:57hrs (UK)). 
 If anyone thinks this is out of date please let me know asap.

Second, I understand the pcode1 and pcode2 columns but not pcode3. 
 Can anyone explain the pcode3 column?




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[OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-21 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Brain
 El Jueves, 21 de Enero de 2010, David Groom escribió:
 Any suggested tagging structure?

 maybe to cover the three admin levels:

 pcode:1 = 1
 pcode:2 = 833
 pcode:3 = 833-01

 Or any other better suggestions?

 Looks good to me. I'll just add that to
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags

 We can discuss the finer details of the tagging scheme at a later time.

Can I suggest unpcode:1 etc to distinguish it from any other actual
 or potential pcode eg postcode.

Adrian.





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[OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-21 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Brain
 El Jueves, 21 de Enero de 2010, David Groom escribió:
 Any suggested tagging structure?

 maybe to cover the three admin levels:

 pcode:1 = 1
 pcode:2 = 833
 pcode:3 = 833-01

 Or any other better suggestions?

 Looks good to me. I'll just add that to
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags

 We can discuss the finer details of the tagging scheme at a later time.

 Can I suggest unpcode:1 etc to distinguish it from any other actual
  or potential pcode eg postcode.

 Adrian.

Or even better as(if) we have a humanitarian: higher level tag try

un:pcode:1

etc.

Adrian.




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