Re: [talk-au] suburb boundaries
Suburb boundaries would not move that often, if that is all that is available, I vote to put it in. On 25/02/2009, Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote: The data will be tagged as reviewed=no to indicate that a person has no confirmed that it is 'correct'. In the case if the Suburb boundaries I doubt it is actually possible to confirm the majority of the data 'on the ground' as their is no magical line on the ground. The data that will be imported is being provided by a government department (the ABS) who create it from the official source (the LGA). While the data is not 100% because it is a few years old, from the reviews of the data it looks pretty good. So, I see no way of getting a better set of information for this data set. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.auwrote: Hi all, No comment on the tag structure offered in the linked website, but I would like to stress that if you are importing mass data, that you clearly mark it as inaccurate, unless you have collected the data yourself by survey. There is nothing worse than a map of imported data (especially boundaries) that are indicated as correct when theyre not even close, due to importing old data or data with unknown faults. This has come up before from people importing mass data. Personally, I believe that OSM's strength is that most data is from personal survey, rather than just blindly imported from another database, and the mass importation of data, then means we not only have to survey, but also have to verify that data other people entered, is infact correct. Id rather have a 100% accurate map, than a 100% complete map. Then again, if you mean 'importing' from your own dataset of survey info, then by all means Im in agreeance with the move. Anyone else got a thought on the issue? David On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 00:15 +1100, Franc Carter wrote: Hi folks, I am ready to start the import of the suburb boundaries. So could you please have one last look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/ABS_Data#OSM_Representation and let me know of any issues, barring any objections I'll start the import soon(ish) cheers -- Franc ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Franc ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] suburb boundaries
I know very little about the rendering, but I would suspect not. each boundary is going to divide two suburbs and may of them are quite short - so I would expect that representing them on a generic map is quite difficult to do. cheers On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Luke Woolley lswool...@gmail.com wrote: I am stoked that the import will soon commence, but I have one query. I can't remember if this has already been asked but do the boundaries of a suburb render the name of the suburb, like the place=suburb tag currently does for tagged nodes or will it just show those fancy purple lines on the map. Thanks. On 25/02/2009, at 9:16 PM, Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote: I *believe* that it is a subdivision of a state. Sydney in an addressing sense refers to the CBD of the city (the area with post code 2000). cheers On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: I say go for it. Although I am 150% percent against any mass loading or routable things (like roads) I think that suburbs are best done by this import and then we have to try to validate the boundaries, maybe doorknock both sides of the alledged boundary and see if people know which suburb they are in. PS is a suburb a subdivision of a city or a state. E.G should Prospect be in Adelaide;South Australia;Australia ... or should it be in South Australia; Australia In Canberra it sounds better to say Turner, ACT than Turner, Canberra, ACT but I'm not so sure for larger cities. Maybe because there is only one city in the ACT. Nick ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.orgTalk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Franc ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Franc ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] suburb boundaries
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:50:20 +1100 Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote: I know very little about the rendering, but I would suspect not. each boundary is going to divide two suburbs and may of them are quite short - so I would expect that representing them on a generic map is quite difficult to do. Observe this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.7875lon=138.6422zoom=14layers=B000FTF You can see 2 Parafields, 1 grey (the place= one) and 1 black (the relation based one). You can also see a black '5107' from a postcode boundary I've put in in that area too. So the answer is yes it will render. -- =b ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] suburb boundaries
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:33:09 +1100 Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote: Nice. Do you want me to try to exclude some suburbs so as to not overlay the areas you have already done ? Nah, there's only about a dozen that I've got fully completed and they're all close enough together I'll just review what's there and merge the 2 sets of data as part of the manual review process. There's probably another 2 dozen that I've only got partial boundaries of so we'll need the abs data to finish them off anyway. -- =b ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
