Re: [talk-au] suburb boundaries import

2009-03-08 Thread Narelle Irvine
The Dept of Lands database was said to be 94% correct in 2007 and improving.
Most of their errors relate to the house numbers on a street, and I
would assume that their suburb boundaries are correct.
This data should take precendence over ABS data.

Regards,
Narelle.

2009/3/8 Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com:

 I wonder if this is because the data is/was off when it was created(2006) or
 because the boundaries
 have changed?

 On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.

 For NSW the Lands Department's Geospatial Portal
 http://gsp.maps.nsw.gov.au/ can show suburb boundaries in the cadastral
 layer.

 Of the area in question, where the ABS shows the boundary going neatly
 down the middle of my street, the NSW Lands Department shows the boundary
 between 1 street and 1/2 a street further south. That is, on the next street
 south, some houses are in my suburb, and some are in the next suburb.

  - Ben Kelley.

 2009/3/6 Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com

 Hi.

 Any thoughts on how to work out the real boundary when the ABS data
 disagrees with commonly known boundaries?

 I don't know why I didn't notice this when I previewed the data, but the
 ABS data shows the boundary for my suburb going right down the middle of my
 street (when I believe it to be one street over). This puts my house in the
 next suburb over.

 I suspect the ABS data is wrong, but any thoughts on how to find out for
 sure?

 Franc - do you have a contact at the ABS who might be interested in
 corrections?

  - Ben Kelley.





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Re: [talk-au] suburb boundaries import

2009-03-08 Thread Franc Carter
I assumed it is copyrighted however, so not a valid source for OSM ;-(

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Narelle Irvine narelle.irv...@gmail.comwrote:

 The Dept of Lands database was said to be 94% correct in 2007 and
 improving.
 Most of their errors relate to the house numbers on a street, and I
 would assume that their suburb boundaries are correct.
 This data should take precendence over ABS data.

 Regards,
 Narelle.

 2009/3/8 Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com:
 
  I wonder if this is because the data is/was off when it was created(2006)
 or
  because the boundaries
  have changed?
 
  On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi.
 
  For NSW the Lands Department's Geospatial Portal
  http://gsp.maps.nsw.gov.au/ can show suburb boundaries in the cadastral
  layer.
 
  Of the area in question, where the ABS shows the boundary going neatly
  down the middle of my street, the NSW Lands Department shows the
 boundary
  between 1 street and 1/2 a street further south. That is, on the next
 street
  south, some houses are in my suburb, and some are in the next suburb.
 
   - Ben Kelley.
 
  2009/3/6 Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com
 
  Hi.
 
  Any thoughts on how to work out the real boundary when the ABS data
  disagrees with commonly known boundaries?
 
  I don't know why I didn't notice this when I previewed the data, but
 the
  ABS data shows the boundary for my suburb going right down the middle
 of my
  street (when I believe it to be one street over). This puts my house in
 the
  next suburb over.
 
  I suspect the ABS data is wrong, but any thoughts on how to find out
 for
  sure?
 
  Franc - do you have a contact at the ABS who might be interested in
  corrections?
 
   - Ben Kelley.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [talk-au] suburb boundaries import

2009-03-08 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi.

2009/3/8 Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com


 I assumed it is copyrighted however, so not a valid source for OSM ;-(


Yes I agree. Given the complicated nature of the boundary in this area
(according to the Lands dept) I don't think copying their data without
permission is a good idea (and their license would not allow this).

The ABS boundary does actually disagree with the street signs though, so
when the import is complete (it only has the relation for the suburb on one
side of the boundary at present) I'll probably move it to be mid-way between
the streets. This is a good approximation of the current local knowledge.

- Ben Kelley.
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