Re: [talk-au] More Goonellabah Mapping + road collapse

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith



--- On Sun, 26/7/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au  wrote:

> That seems like the most appropriate.
> I'll throw in a FIXME so it gets highlighted and
> hopefully a local mapper will update it after I'm gone.

Just marking it as construction makes it go bright yellow in JOSM, and dotted 
on the map, but not bright yellow, although it probably should to indicate 
potential road works...

http://osm.org/go/ueTQptH6J--


  

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Re: [talk-au] slightly diff tag watch

2009-07-26 Thread Liz
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, Stephen Hope wrote:
> 'Seventh-day Adventist' is the official name, but commonly abbreviated
> to Adventist or SDA.
>
> Technically, an adventist is someone who believes in the (soon) second
> coming of Christ (the Advent), so most Christian faiths can be called
> adventists.  However,  it's usually applied to a number of churches
> who came from the "adventist" movement of the 1800's, of which the
> SDAs are by far the largest.
>
> (Sorry, my comparative religions classes are showing)
>
> Stephen
thanks, because their web site didn't clearly state their official name


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Re: [talk-au] slightly diff tag watch

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith

--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Liz  wrote:

> Microsoft has been formally declared a cult

I just looked it up, someone being funny tagging MS' office in Sydney.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/345461052/history


  

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Re: [talk-au] slightly diff tag watch

2009-07-26 Thread Stephen Hope
'Seventh-day Adventist' is the official name, but commonly abbreviated
to Adventist or SDA.

Technically, an adventist is someone who believes in the (soon) second
coming of Christ (the Advent), so most Christian faiths can be called
adventists.  However,  it's usually applied to a number of churches
who came from the "adventist" movement of the 1800's, of which the
SDAs are by far the largest.

(Sorry, my comparative religions classes are showing)

Stephen

2009/7/26 Liz :
> I see that Ultimo has declared independence
> Microsoft has been formally declared a cult
> and we have four ways of marking Adventist / Seventh Day Adventist churches
> (anyone know the official name? I looked today and decided on adventist)
> and lastly, nodes can have gender
>
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Re: [talk-au] slightly diff tag watch

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith

--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Liz  wrote:

> I see that Ultimo has declared independence

Damn yuppies with too much time on their hands! :)

> Microsoft has been formally declared a cult

Linus referred to MS hating as a disease, so who knows :)

> and we have four ways of marking Adventist / Seventh Day
> Adventist churches 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:denomination

religion=christian, denomination=seventh_day_adventist


  

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Re: [talk-au] slightly diff tag watch

2009-07-26 Thread Liz
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote:
> I've updated the site:
>
> http://maps.bigtincan.com/tagwatch/
>
> to include both node and relation tags along with the existing way tags,
> but I haven't figured out how to select a relation in JOSM yet.

I see that Ultimo has declared independence
Microsoft has been formally declared a cult
and we have four ways of marking Adventist / Seventh Day Adventist churches 
(anyone know the official name? I looked today and decided on adventist)
and lastly, nodes can have gender



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Re: [talk-au] industrial tags

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith


--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Elizabeth Dodd  wrote:

> buildings that are big enough to mess up the contour data
> ??
> i can identify some sheds here of that size

however they're still man made, not landuse, landuse is a grouping tag not a 
tag for a single "thing"


  

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Re: [talk-au] slightly diff tag watch

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith

I've updated the site:

http://maps.bigtincan.com/tagwatch/

to include both node and relation tags along with the existing way tags, but I 
haven't figured out how to select a relation in JOSM yet.


  

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Re: [talk-au] industrial tags

2009-07-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote:
> How big does a building have to be before it's no longer a building?
>
> 747/380 Hangers are really big but they're still buildings. shrug
buildings that are big enough to mess up the contour data ??
i can identify some sheds here of that size

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Re: [talk-au] industrial tags

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith



--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Elizabeth Dodd  wrote:

> there are silos big enough to be landuse
> and then attached grain storage sites where they cover the
> stuff with tarps
> A silo is something which is a landmark around here because
> its so flat
> so they are worth having their own tag 
> but i don't feel like stirring up the talk list tonight

How big does a building have to be before it's no longer a building?

747/380 Hangers are really big but they're still buildings. *shrug*


  

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Re: [talk-au] industrial tags

2009-07-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote:
> > silo
>
> I'd say silo's are buildings, not landuse.

there are silos big enough to be landuse
and then attached grain storage sites where they cover the stuff with tarps
A silo is something which is a landmark around here because its so flat
so they are worth having their own tag 
but i don't feel like stirring up the talk list tonight


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Re: [talk-au] industrial tags

2009-07-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote:
> > > landuse=quarry
> >
> > only works for opencut
> > otherwise one uses natural=cave_entrance??
>
> No idea, try the main talk list, I would have just marked it as
> landuse=quarry, layer=-1

No sane answers there :-)

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Re: [talk-au] industrial tags

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith



--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Elizabeth Dodd  wrote:

> the mentality that subdivides the doityourself shop from
> the hardware shop 

Most hardware shops in the US are massively big, where as DIY shops are more 
like what we'd refer to as a hardware shop so I can understand that to some 
extent. If you have ever been in a large Bunnings, then double it or more in 
some cases.

> should understand that there are different industrial uses
> or are they all unaware of the realities of industry as
> well as of agriculture 

landuse=farm|farmyard ?


  

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Re: [talk-au] industrial tags

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith

--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Elizabeth Dodd  wrote:

> > landuse=quarry
> only works for opencut
> otherwise one uses natural=cave_entrance??

No idea, try the main talk list, I would have just marked it as landuse=quarry, 
layer=-1


  

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Re: [talk-au] industrial tags

2009-07-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote:
> > steelworks
>
> man_made=works
the mentality that subdivides the doityourself shop from the hardware shop 
should understand that there are different industrial uses
or are they all unaware of the realities of industry as well as of agriculture 
:^


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Re: [talk-au] industrial tags

2009-07-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote:
> > mine
>
> landuse=quarry
only works for opencut
otherwise one uses natural=cave_entrance??

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Re: [talk-au] More Goonellabah Mapping + road collapse

2009-07-26 Thread James Livingston
On 26/07/2009, at 6:39 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
> bridge=no
>
> --  
> You will be run over by a bus.

Because you were standing below and the bus ran off the now non- 
existent bridge? :P



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Re: [talk-au] industrial tags

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith

--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Liz  wrote:

> mine

landuse=quarry

> steelworks

man_made=works

> or agricultural/industry landuse
> winery

winery is a building, the surrounding vines would be

landuse=vineyard

> silo

I'd say silo's are buildings, not landuse.

> so should we make up a bumper size list of really_useful
> tags?

We just need to "think" more european it seems :)

However it would be useful to make a page up of en_UK to en_AU names for 
beginners.


  

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[talk-au] industrial tags

2009-07-26 Thread Liz
we don't seem to have industrial landuse tags

mine
steelworks


or agricultural/industry landuse
winery
silo

so should we make up a bumper size list of really_useful tags?

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Re: [talk-au] More Goonellabah Mapping + road collapse

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith



--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Elizabeth Dodd  wrote:

> bridge=no

local_council_does_engineering_checks_of_roads=no


  

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Re: [talk-au] More Goonellabah Mapping + road collapse

2009-07-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote:
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Biogenesis_/diary/7219
> >
> > did you go for road closed
> > road intermittent
> > ford
> > or some new tag?
>
> looks like a
>
> highway=construction
> construction=residential
>
> That is if they are actually planning to fix it.
>
>
>  
i was thinking 
bridge=no


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Re: [talk-au] More Goonellabah Mapping + road collapse

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith



--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Liz  wrote:

> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Biogenesis_/diary/7219
> 
> did you go for road closed
> road intermittent
> ford
> or some new tag?

looks like a 

highway=construction
construction=residential

That is if they are actually planning to fix it.


  

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[talk-au] More Goonellabah Mapping + road collapse

2009-07-26 Thread Liz
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Biogenesis_/diary/7219

did you go for road closed
road intermittent
ford
or some new tag?

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Re: [talk-au] Causeways/Fords

2009-07-26 Thread John Smith



--- On Sun, 26/7/09, Liz  wrote:

> applies to most of australia, we could just make it the
> default :-)

I'm not sure if it's most or not, it would be most the western side of the 
range, but there seems to be quite a few on the eastern side in QLD where this 
isn't the case, lots of river/stream crossings in national parks etc more often 
than not have water in them.


  

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