[talk-au] List of route=road relations

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
I did a quick SQL query to find what named route=road relations exist, in the 
interest of saving people from duplicating things:

named routes: http://maps.bigtincan.com/tagwatch/road-relations.php
ref routes: http://maps.bigtincan.com/tagwatch/ref-relations.php

If a route has a ref and a name it will appear on both pages.

You can load the relation straight into potlatch/JOSM from the page.


  

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Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
I finally figured out that when it's type=route, osm2pgsql changes the field 
name to route_name so I've updated the database and configs to show route_name. 
In the example below, the ways are tagged with local street names, but the 
highway has no name or ref, but instead the highway name and ref is pulled from 
the relation information.

http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=15lat=-29.78160122412lon=151.16912834144

Also I've set the config to render relation names after local street names so 
that way highways don't clobber local names.


  

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Re: [talk-au] Question about route numbers

2009-08-20 Thread Liz
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Mark Pulley wrote:
 1. When should I start using Alphanumeric numbers? For an example, the  
 Mid Western Highway between Bathurst and Cowra is currently NH24, but  
 some signs have shown A41 (now coverplated over by NH24). Should I use  
 the new A41 or the current NH24?

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.4299lon=149.5466zoom=13

 For another example, when in Dubbo last weekend on the Mitchell  
 Highway, I spotted A32 on one intersection only, all the others still  
 showing NH32.

I did mark those as ref= and old_ref=
for example at christmas the signs at Cowra said A41

of course further west the signs are not coverplated
but the Mid Western is then B64 

so further west the system is coming in by stealth or sheer laziness on the 
part of the workers which seems appropriate somehow


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Re: [talk-au] OSMF

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith


--- On Thu, 20/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:

 If you are a member, please vote, it will make life easier
 for us all if as 
 many potential voters as possible vote
 
 or else we will hear for the next three years how the poll
 was 'fixed.

This is one reason I've decided to take an active interest in the discussion on 
Local Chapters.

I think they should be as independent as possible otherwise it could be very 
detrimental with inter and intra infighting spilling over to local chapters, 
and vice versa. If they're operationally independent of each other it's a lot 
more clear cut.


  

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[talk-au] Mapping on a phone

2009-08-20 Thread Franc Carter
Hi,

My phone is on it's last legs and I'll need a new one soon. Does anybody
have a
phone that does a good job for mapping. It would be nice to add POIs as I
notice
them. I don't really need something for the full mapping experience as I
have
a full setup in the car for that

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Re: [talk-au] Opening a discussion on OSM Mapping and Online Hazard reporting

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
Not sure if this is what others had in mind, but rather than just focus on 
cycling, I think a general council bugs reporting system would be useful to 
complain about other things like pot holes :)

I've downloaded/used the OpenStreetBugs code to produce the Council Bug Report:

http://bugs.bigtincan.com/

I was thinking today that this might be a foot in the door for talking to 
council/state roads depts about potential partnerships maps wise. In this 
instance we could be given an email address and a boundary and then when a bug 
is reported an email could be sent to the relevant council about it.


  

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[talk-au] Would anyone buy one of these?

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
or wear one?

http://www.sonicresolutions.com/osm_vest/IMG_6327.jpg
http://www.sonicresolutions.com/osm_vest/IMG_6328.jpg


  

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Re: [talk-au] Opening a discussion on OSM Mapping and Online Hazard reporting

2009-08-20 Thread cam_daw
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 13:58 +, John Smith wrote:
Not sure if this is what others had in mind, but rather than just focus
on cycling, I think a general council bugs reporting system would be
useful to complain about other things like pot holes :)
 
 I've downloaded/used the OpenStreetBugs code to produce the Council Bug 
 Report:
 
 http://bugs.bigtincan.com/
 
 I was thinking today that this might be a foot in the door for talking to 
 council/state roads depts about potential partnerships maps wise. In this 
 instance we could be given an email address and a boundary and then when a 
 bug is reported an email could be sent to the relevant council about it.
 
 

Now this is a brilliant idea John!
I currently work for the North Sydney Council, and some of the engineers
there are slowly starting to use OSM - as it's almost better than some
of the maps we currently use in some aspects of our jobs.
In my job at the Council I need to reference several maps - OSM being
the main map that I use.

rant
I've done quite a few GPS surveys mapping in stuff around North Sydney
(and Camden), adding in lots of detail (except for house numbers - I'll
do that when my areas of interest are more detailed) - so seats /
toilets / playgrounds in parks are starting to appear :)
I'm also able to collaborate with the local walking group in North
Sydney - which would be an ideal target to distribute walkingpapers to.
/rant

A council bug report like yours John would be excellent in this case, as
some residence report potholes / graffiti / bugs in rather vague terms
that makes it difficult for our engineers / rangers / contractors to
locate.

Having a council bug reporting system could also spur other councils /
residence to contribute to OSM as well.

Aside, I've also requested a few more rendering features I'd like to see
in http://maps.bigtincan.com/
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aussie_Mapnik_Style_Changes
They are amenity=drinking_water and amenity=waste_basket

Thanks for rendering benches and bbqs! :)
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Re: [talk-au] Opening a discussion on OSM Mapping and Online Hazard reporting

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 21/8/09, cam_...@fastmail.fm cam_...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Having a council bug reporting system could also spur other
 councils /
 residence to contribute to OSM as well.

That's what I am hoping for :)

Word of mouth is the best form of advertising, so if you know anyone else in 
any other councils you might point them to our site :)

 Aside, I've also requested a few more rendering features

I'm working through the list, highway shields was sort of the top of the list, 
but once everything ends up in a relation that will work itself out.

 I'd like to see
 in http://maps.bigtincan.com/
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aussie_Mapnik_Style_Changes
 They are amenity=drinking_water and amenity=waste_basket

Just need some icons and it's trivial to render them, I'll see if I can find 
anything suitable.


  

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[talk-au] 4wd_only=yes now renders

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=18lat=-26.191806577279lon=152.62008508749




  

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[talk-au] http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=662

2009-08-20 Thread Liz
maps showing us trying to influence the world

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Re: [talk-au] Would anyone buy one of these?

2009-08-20 Thread Liz
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote:
 or wear one?

 http://www.sonicresolutions.com/osm_vest/IMG_6327.jpg
 http://www.sonicresolutions.com/osm_vest/IMG_6328.jpg




Definitely unfashionable. Lime green is more appealing

I'm sure we would be better off organising our own and not getting theirs.
Perhaps just getting the transfers sorted out and people getting their own 
vest and applying it?





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Re: [talk-au] Would anyone buy one of these?

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 21/8/09, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do own one - I got one the first
 time round.  I wear it when cycling
 at dusk/night - even when I'm not surveying. I've noticed
 that if I'm
 wearing that, I get ignored a lot more in some places, but
 attract
 more attention in others.

All that comes to mind now is some kind of Chasers skit where they're 
impersonating surveyors on some kind of road construction job :)


  

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Re: [talk-au] Opening a discussion on OSM Mapping and Online Hazard reporting

2009-08-20 Thread BOUNDY,Paul
Hi Cam_Daw
Thanks for the link to Open Street Bugs

I'll add this into the mix of conversations I'm having elsewhere.

Who hosts and develops this site?


regards
Paul Boundy
Massbug
Marrickville and South Sydney Bicycle User Group
The other type of Bug

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Sent: Friday, 21 August 2009 0:54
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Opening a discussion on OSM Mapping and Online Hazard 
reporting

On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 13:58 +, John Smith wrote:
Not sure if this is what others had in mind, but rather than just focus
on cycling, I think a general council bugs reporting system would be
useful to complain about other things like pot holes :)
 
 I've downloaded/used the OpenStreetBugs code to produce the Council Bug 
 Report:
 
 http://bugs.bigtincan.com/
 
 I was thinking today that this might be a foot in the door for talking to 
 council/state roads depts about potential partnerships maps wise. In this 
 instance we could be given an email address and a boundary and then when a 
 bug is reported an email could be sent to the relevant council about it.
 
 

Now this is a brilliant idea John!
I currently work for the North Sydney Council, and some of the engineers
there are slowly starting to use OSM - as it's almost better than some
of the maps we currently use in some aspects of our jobs.
In my job at the Council I need to reference several maps - OSM being
the main map that I use.

rant
I've done quite a few GPS surveys mapping in stuff around North Sydney
(and Camden), adding in lots of detail (except for house numbers - I'll
do that when my areas of interest are more detailed) - so seats /
toilets / playgrounds in parks are starting to appear :)
I'm also able to collaborate with the local walking group in North
Sydney - which would be an ideal target to distribute walkingpapers to.
/rant

A council bug report like yours John would be excellent in this case, as
some residence report potholes / graffiti / bugs in rather vague terms
that makes it difficult for our engineers / rangers / contractors to
locate.

Having a council bug reporting system could also spur other councils /
residence to contribute to OSM as well.

Aside, I've also requested a few more rendering features I'd like to see
in http://maps.bigtincan.com/
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aussie_Mapnik_Style_Changes
They are amenity=drinking_water and amenity=waste_basket

Thanks for rendering benches and bbqs! :)
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Re: [talk-au] Would anyone buy one of these?

2009-08-20 Thread cam_daw
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:36 +, John Smith wrote:
or wear one?
 
 http://www.sonicresolutions.com/osm_vest/IMG_6327.jpg
 http://www.sonicresolutions.com/osm_vest/IMG_6328.jpg
 
 

I probably would wear something like that vest - during the day while
cycling / walking.
It'd atleast make some people in the general public feel less suspicious
of me cycling / walking up and down car parks / dead end roads / walking
around schools (some schools' boundaries aren't easily seen in Yahoo) /
taking photos of benches / bbqs / bins.

On the odd time I go surveying on foot / bicycle at night, I wear this:
http://www.exeliteworld.com/recreational.html?product=lumisash
Cars from a kilometer away down the road can see me at night time! :D

Another thing to note, it seems we can't order anything from
http://www.sonicresolutions.com/ anyway, as sonic resolutions is no
longer trading.
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Re: [talk-au] Would anyone buy one of these?

2009-08-20 Thread John Smith
--- On Fri, 21/8/09, cam_...@fastmail.fm cam_...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 On the odd time I go surveying on foot / bicycle at night,
 I wear this:
 http://www.exeliteworld.com/recreational.html?product=lumisash
 Cars from a kilometer away down the road can see me at
 night time! :D

They make a vest as well, wonder if they do custom prints on them.


  

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