Re: [talk-au] NearMap PhotoMap imagery for OSM
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, John Smith wrote: > Do you work for this company, or have a contact with them? Just so the list knows... I work for NearMap (as does Alex K), and I'm happy to respond to enquiries on the list. There are actually a few of us on various OSM forums and lists, but being a public company we're sometimes a little bit constrained in what we can say. The best way to interact with us is via the forum on the NearMap site (http://www.production.nearmap.com/community/contribute.aspx and click on Forum), but I get the emails on this list and will read those that refer to us :) Anyway, in answer to a few of the questions that have come up: * We use different aircraft in different locations; the comments by James Andrewartha about the HyperPod are pretty much on the button. * The need for authentication to access the website has been fully removed now, so JOSM should be able to query our servers directly. * We added the licensing about tracing for OSM specifically to allow use of our images to boost the OSM data. If you read more on our website (for example, http://www.production.nearmap.com/help/faq.aspx#Gq4) you'll see that we generate our StreetMap tiles from the OSM data, so it's very much to our mutual benefit to get that data as up-to-date as we can. In fact, since we all live in Perth, there are quite a few updates to the data that we've contributed, using the Potlatch custom URL format. * Load balancing: all the externally available hostnames resolve to balanced IPs, so you could use any of the web0-web7 or www hostnames. However, to make sure that you get the best service, including using the nearest web servers to you (in net-connectivity terms), use www.nearmap.com. * Accuracy: this is important to us! The initial surveys of some cities suffered some teething troubles with hardware and the accuracy suffered. You can generally expect the accuracy to be as good as the recent Perth surveys, and when we reprocess the older surveys they will get more accurate. If you are assessing accuracy and find somewhere that we appear to be way out (preferably against a known reference point), then please let us know, via the forum. * Caching tiles: if you can, please do. They're served with strong etags and suitable Cache-Control and Max-Age headers. If your system honours those, you'll get updated images in a reasonable time frame and avoid hitting our servers too hard. Incidentally, if you do try and suck down tiles at a very high rate, you may well get throttled and start getting 509 responses. Cheers Ben -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/NearMap-PhotoMap-imagery-for-OSM-tp26192031p26383423.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - Australian Talk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Interesting opportunity
> 2009/11/17 : >> And although the OSMF has a plan for local chapters the plan is missing >> critical details. > > Actually it's not that simple there seems to be various ideas as to > what a local chapter should be. > I was just being understated I am not sure that there was any idea past "let's have local chapters" ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Interesting opportunity
2009/11/17 Peter Ross : > I'm sure the council or a large business there bought the coverage off > nearmap, as I believe that is there business model. They'll sell you > up-to-date coverage for less than what you would pay for satellite > coverage. I don't think it's that simple, I think it was more to do with testing since they have 4 days in a row of imagery. This post and the follow up were interesting: http://nearmap.lefora.com/2009/11/04/regional-cities/page1/#post15777317 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Interesting opportunity
2009/11/17 : > And although the OSMF has a plan for local chapters the plan is missing > critical details. Actually it's not that simple there seems to be various ideas as to what a local chapter should be. > They need to be sure that the local chapter is appropriate before > permitting use of the name, but without a local chapter we can't prove > whether we would be appropriate or not. This is part of the reason why I published a lot of the supporting documentation online. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Interesting opportunity
> > For me the opportunity is this. > > 1. We map carnarvon > 2. OSM Local foundation and nearmap release press release saying look > carnavon is mapped and now the locals there have a high quality map > which they can use on the internet or on their gps free of charge. > 3. Contact local paper there and try and get them to cover it > 4. Post the message about nearmap onto the global list > > but before we go any further we should first kick off the local > foundation. > Agree with this plan Liz ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Interesting opportunity
> 2009/11/17 Peter Ross : >> but before we go any further we should first kick off the local >> foundation. > > I sent an email a month or more ago asking permission to use OSM as > part of the name, and a follow email a week or two ago and I'm still > waiting for a reply to the followup email. > And although the OSMF has a plan for local chapters the plan is missing critical details. They need to be sure that the local chapter is appropriate before permitting use of the name, but without a local chapter we can't prove whether we would be appropriate or not. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Interesting opportunity
2009/11/17 Peter Ross : > but before we go any further we should first kick off the local foundation. I sent an email a month or more ago asking permission to use OSM as part of the name, and a follow email a week or two ago and I'm still waiting for a reply to the followup email. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Interesting opportunity
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:05 PM, John Smith wrote: > 2009/11/15 Franc Carter : >> NearMap seems to have pretty extensive coverage of WA. I was browsing >> and found another spec (Tammin) which I am currently filling in > > Tammin seems to be part of a large chunk of coverage around Perth, on > the other hand I can't figure out why there is coverage around > Carnavon as it's north of Perth by 1000km, give or take. > I'm sure the council or a large business there bought the coverage off nearmap, as I believe that is there business model. They'll sell you up-to-date coverage for less than what you would pay for satellite coverage. For me the opportunity is this. 1. We map caranvon 2. OSM Local foundation and nearmap release press release saying look carnavon is mapped and now the locals there have a high quality map which they can use on the internet or on their gps free of charge. 3. Contact local paper there and try and get them to cover it 4. Post the message about nearmap onto the global list but before we go any further we should first kick off the local foundation. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
