[talk-au] Canberra - Survey War
John Henderson wrote I've been trying to document the local Bicentennial National Trail I think that mapping this trail is a *massively* usefull thing for OSM. As far as I can tell, there are no maps of this trail that could be used for navigation. The only ones I could find were bad enough to be dangerous. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Canberra - Survey War
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Nick Hocking wrote: John Henderson wrote I've been trying to document the local Bicentennial National Trail I think that mapping this trail is a *massively* usefull thing for OSM. As far as I can tell, there are no maps of this trail that could be used for navigation. The only ones I could find were bad enough to be dangerous. adrian reports back from thinking on two wheels conf today where he was asked I have a client in the Snowy Mountains that has a series of bike and mountain bike trails that need mapping. How much would it cost for you to do them? so if he for some reason takes that on that lot can come onto osm too ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map
If it's helps, NearMap started flying a Canberra survey yesterday. 2010/1/14 Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com: Canberra seems to be fairly well covered OSM-wise although there are still lots of detail that could be added. But there is one obvious blank bit that might be fun to fill in - the Australian National Botanic Gardens. It is a public place so you do not really have to get permission to wander around, and it has it all: roads, fences, swing gates, boom gates, areas, paths, service roads, several different surface treatments, bridges, buildings, speed bumps, pedestrian crossings, directional signs, interpretive signs, POIs, car parking, parking meters, shared roads, benches, shelters, water bubblers, fire hydrants, standpipes, a shop and importantly, a cafe. And all condensed into a manageable area. Given this concentration of OSM features in microcosm, mapping the ANBG might be a good OSM training ground. What would Canberra OSMers think of this as a map-up project? We could just do it although I think it would be a good idea to talk with the management about it first if it is considered worth doing. Disclaimer. I work there :), which might be a good or a bad thing in terms of negotiating access and support from the organization. For instance a classroom with an internet computer and projector might be useful for training in the editing tools or arguing about (sorry, discussing) presentation features and tags, etc. The place has been surveyed a number of times and it should be possible to get permission to use some of this information. jim -- _ Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft 'A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity.' - Robert Frost, poet (1874-1963) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Ben Last Development Manager (HyperWeb) NearMap Pty Ltd ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Canberra - last white spot on the map
nice - that would be a great help... how long before the images are visible? jim On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: If it's helps, NearMap started flying a Canberra survey yesterday. 2010/1/14 Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com: Canberra seems to be fairly well covered OSM-wise although there are still lots of detail that could be added. But there is one obvious blank bit that might be fun to fill in - the Australian National Botanic Gardens. It is a public place so you do not really have to get permission to wander around, and it has it all: roads, fences, swing gates, boom gates, areas, paths, service roads, several different surface treatments, bridges, buildings, speed bumps, pedestrian crossings, directional signs, interpretive signs, POIs, car parking, parking meters, shared roads, benches, shelters, water bubblers, fire hydrants, standpipes, a shop and importantly, a cafe. And all condensed into a manageable area. Given this concentration of OSM features in microcosm, mapping the ANBG might be a good OSM training ground. What would Canberra OSMers think of this as a map-up project? We could just do it although I think it would be a good idea to talk with the management about it first if it is considered worth doing. Disclaimer. I work there :), which might be a good or a bad thing in terms of negotiating access and support from the organization. For instance a classroom with an internet computer and projector might be useful for training in the editing tools or arguing about (sorry, discussing) presentation features and tags, etc. The place has been surveyed a number of times and it should be possible to get permission to use some of this information. jim -- _ Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft 'A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity.' - Robert Frost, poet (1874-1963) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Ben Last Development Manager (HyperWeb) NearMap Pty Ltd ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- _ Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft 'A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity.' - Robert Frost, poet (1874-1963) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp
Hi John, Ive been tagging a few boatramps lately, and your suggestion is basically exactly what Ive been doing, but I have also wondered if it is the best method, and had a few questions. Firstly, leisure=slipway works fine for most cases of boatramps, but some boatramps arent 'leisure', for example a water-police or navy boat ramp or a boat ramp setup near a dry dock. These ramps are still slipway's but dont fit the leisure category. Maybe an access= tag or something might be appropriate. Secondly, Ive wondered (like you), how exactly to map them. Should they be mapped right to the waters edge, or should they continue down past the waterline, the same way the actual ramp does? Im aware there are issues with people attaching ways to polygon/relations, so Ive been extending the way over the polygon and into the waterway. Ive been mapping a few ramps around Canberra, and have come across a few different uses. Ive also noticed some areas have rowing pontoons setup in the lake, which are the same as a boat ramp, but they run at ground level while the boatramp disappears under the water. These arent really slipways, but what else is appropriate? Some sort of sport=rowing amenity=pontoon or something, comes to mind. David On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 09:02 +1100, John Henderson wrote: Has anyone got a better suggestion for showing a boat ramp than extending a highway=service out into the water? The leisure=slipway tag is meant to apply to nodes, not ways. Inland impoundments can have long boat ramps because the water levels can vary so much. This link shows the length of ramp that's currently exposed at Lake Burrinjuck: http://www.osm.org/?lat=-34.982064lon=148.624566zoom=18 I've also tagged the node at the high water mark as leisure=slipway. John H ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] JOSM on handheld device
Hello all, Having recently gotten my WinCE-based navman back from warranty repair, Ive gotten it back loaded with OziExplorer and the most recent mapnik maps, in order to help create traces of missing areas. My basic process involves driving around to capture the traces then bring the device home, copy the gps trace files to my home PC and make the changes either with josm or potlatch. I figure as I have a handheld device, with 4gb of storage and 500mb of RAM running windows CE, there should be no problems running some sort of OSM editor straight on the device. Has anyone tried doing something like this? From my little research, it appears WinCE is one of the only systems in existance that doesnt support Java properly, which presumably rules out using josm. Ive tried a few packages such as opencitymap and OSM-tracker, but they all seem to have pre-requesites that arent identified on the download sites. I figure I cant be the only person who wants to edit OSM from my GPS device, so Im hoping someone might have a few ideas for apps worth a play with, before I give up and look at writing my own. David ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
