Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp

2010-01-21 Thread James Livingston
On 21/01/2010, at 9:35 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
 I would suggest tagging the way leisure=slipway. If you need to
 break the current specification to do so, then make a note on the wiki
 page. Tagging it highway=service seems wrong. Service roads do not
 go underwater...
 
 The tagging system is supposed to be flexible and updated to reflect
 changing requirements, after all.

I've tagged about five or six boat ramps about the place, and it wasn't until I 
read these emails that I even considered putting it on just the a single node. 
I found the wiki page a while back and started applying it to ways, without 
realising it said otherwise.

Ah consistency.

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Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp

2010-01-21 Thread John Henderson
David Murn wrote:

 I think slipway is the British term.  From the leisure=slipway wiki
 page:

Yes, I'm happy now that they're using the term to apply to both types of 
boat launching facility.

Anyhow, I've changed the tagging to show highway=service to the 
approximate high water mark, then leisure=slipway for the couple of 
hundred metres of way from there down to the present water level.  And 
I've tagged the joining node as leisure=slipway as well.

If I want to draw attention to the fact that the slipway tag needs to 
apply to significantly-long ways as well as to nodes, where's the 
appropriate place to do that?

John H

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[talk-au] Question about lanes

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Pulley
I'm currently doing some edits in Armidale (NSW) following my trip  
there for Christmas. Many of the streets and surrounding roads are  
labelled lanes=1. Some of these are clearly wrong, as they have a  
painted line in the middle (lanes=2) - I will be changing these, but I  
wanted to check what to use if the road (residential or unclassified)  
doesn't have centre line markings. Should we use lanes=1 only if  
it's narrow, or in all residential roads without lane markings? (or  
leave the tag off completely?) What do other people do?

Mark P.
---
They offered to transport me back to any point in history that I would
  care to go, and so I had them send me back to last Thursday night, so
  I could pay my phone bill on time.
  (Weird Al Yankovic, Everything You Know Is Wrong)



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Re: [talk-au] Question about lanes

2010-01-21 Thread John Henderson
Mark Pulley wrote:
 I'm currently doing some edits in Armidale (NSW) following my trip  
 there for Christmas. Many of the streets and surrounding roads are  
 labelled lanes=1. Some of these are clearly wrong, as they have a  
 painted line in the middle (lanes=2) - I will be changing these, but I  
 wanted to check what to use if the road (residential or unclassified)  
 doesn't have centre line markings. Should we use lanes=1 only if  
 it's narrow, or in all residential roads without lane markings? (or  
 leave the tag off completely?) What do other people do?

If the road is two-way traffic (you can drive in either direction), I 
use the lanes tag only if the number of lanes is greater than two.

If the road has one-way traffic, I use the lanes tag for each way, but 
only if the number of lanes in that direction is greater than one.

John H

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Re: [talk-au] Blue?

2010-01-21 Thread Arie Paap
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:09 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/1/21 Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com:
 From a brief look the coastline appears to be intact and I can't see
 any way located on the boundary of the blue background which might be
 the cause.

 The coast lines only update infrequently, so even if it looks right
 now it may have been broken in the past, I've tried to force the tiles
 to regenerate, but no luck.

 I think the coastline data on OSM is from the 27th of December.


The correct coastline data seems to be in use again. Tiles that still
have blue background are updated when resubmitted for rendering. Would
be nice to be able to determine what date the rendered coastline comes
from.

Arie.

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Re: [talk-au] Question about lanes

2010-01-21 Thread John Smith
2010/1/22 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com:
 Mark Pulley wrote:
 I'm currently doing some edits in Armidale (NSW) following my trip
 there for Christmas. Many of the streets and surrounding roads are
 labelled lanes=1. Some of these are clearly wrong, as they have a
 painted line in the middle (lanes=2) - I will be changing these, but I
 wanted to check what to use if the road (residential or unclassified)
 doesn't have centre line markings. Should we use lanes=1 only if
 it's narrow, or in all residential roads without lane markings? (or
 leave the tag off completely?) What do other people do?

 If the road is two-way traffic (you can drive in either direction), I
 use the lanes tag only if the number of lanes is greater than two.

A lane is a lane, there is two way traffic on a road south of Gympie
that is only one lane and you have to pull off to the side if there is
a car coming in the opposite direction.

 If the road has one-way traffic, I use the lanes tag for each way, but
 only if the number of lanes in that direction is greater than one.

If a road has multiple lanes (or car widths) and is bidirectional I
assume lanes=2, if it's one way I assume lanes=1 and only tag ways
with the number of lanes=* if it differs from the assumption. The only
exception is motorways where one way is assumed to be 2 lanes.

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Re: [talk-au] Blue?

2010-01-21 Thread John Smith
2010/1/22 Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com:
 The correct coastline data seems to be in use again. Tiles that still
 have blue background are updated when resubmitted for rendering. Would
 be nice to be able to determine what date the rendered coastline comes
 from.

Download the coastline shape file from OSM servers, this will tell you the date.

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Re: [talk-au] Blue?

2010-01-21 Thread Arie Paap
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/1/22 Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com:
 The correct coastline data seems to be in use again. Tiles that still
 have blue background are updated when resubmitted for rendering. Would
 be nice to be able to determine what date the rendered coastline comes
 from.

 Download the coastline shape file from OSM servers, this will tell you the 
 date.


Thank you John.

Arie.

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Re: [talk-au] Question about lanes

2010-01-21 Thread Sean Williams
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I tag the same way as John does.

Sean

John Henderson wrote:

 If the road is two-way traffic (you can drive in either direction), I 
 use the lanes tag only if the number of lanes is greater than two.
 
 If the road has one-way traffic, I use the lanes tag for each way, but 
 only if the number of lanes in that direction is greater than one.
 
 John H
 
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