Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Community Notification- Services Relocation
I posted this to the main talk list, for the benefit of those not on the main talk list I'll repost it here: > Here's a slashdot post from last year that details what happens within the > GPL community: > > http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/11/10/1540242/SFLC-Finds-One-New-GPL-Violation-Per-Day ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Community Notification- Services Relocation
On 10 June 2010 15:52, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, John Smith wrote: >> >> On 10 June 2010 14:26, David Dean wrote: >> > Looks like NearMap or us need to talk to BrisConnections about attribution. >> >> It might have been better to contact them privately about this before >> resorting to making a fuss publicly > > talk-au is hardly "public" > The archives get scraped by Google and possibly other mailing list archive sites, not to mention you have no idea who is subscribed to this public mailing list. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Community Notification- Services Relocation
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, John Smith wrote: > > On 10 June 2010 14:26, David Dean wrote: > > Looks like NearMap or us need to talk to BrisConnections about attribution. > > It might have been better to contact them privately about this before > resorting to making a fuss publicly talk-au is hardly "public" ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Infractions group?
It's happened a couple of time where people have publicly named and shamed some company or person on either a mailing list or diary entires or their own personal blogs. I don't think this is the right way to handle things, and while these claims need to be dealt with I think we should first try and contact people about properly attributing OSM, otherwise it may only end up backing people into a corner and we may loose a valuable opportunity. Here's a slashdot post from last year that details what happens within the GPL community: http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/11/10/1540242/SFLC-Finds-One-New-GPL-Violation-Per-Day ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On 10 June 2010 14:33, John Henderson wrote: > Shouldn't the page header and text say "horse_stile" instead of "horse > stile" (ie, with an underscore instead of a space)? I didn't put a lot of effort into the page, I just fixed this will a wiki page tag... > And would it also be a good idea to mention cavalettis and horse hops, so > that mappers searching for those thing would discover the horse_stile tag? As I said, it was just a stub page, feel free to extend it :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Community Notification- Services Relocation
On 10 June 2010 14:26, David Dean wrote: > Looks like NearMap or us need to talk to BrisConnections about attribution. It might have been better to contact them privately about this before resorting to making a fuss publicly, I'm not sure of Nearmap's take on it but it'd great if more people used OSM data for this and we could even help them to some extent by marking it as a construction zone, or the dates it will be, yes we'd like the recognition of our hard work, but we don't want to embarsses people into a corner so in future so they go off and use gmaps imagery instead. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On 10/06/10 11:15, John Smith wrote: > On 10 June 2010 11:10, Jim Croft wrote: >> there is one near my place... will try and iPhone it this weekend... > > Thanks, in the mean time I wrote a stub page: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dhorse_stile Shouldn't the page header and text say "horse_stile" instead of "horse stile" (ie, with an underscore instead of a space)? And would it also be a good idea to mention cavalettis and horse hops, so that mappers searching for those thing would discover the horse_stile tag? John H ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Community Notification- Services Relocation
Whoops, In removing the formatting the link broke. The CLICK HERE linked to http://bridgemail.bigbridge.com.au/ch/21212/2dd7vq5/1247265/174e314xfc.pdf - David On 10 June 2010 14:26, David Dean wrote: > Looks like NearMap or us need to talk to BrisConnections about attribution. > > - David > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Brendan Morley > Date: 10 June 2010 13:10 > Subject: Fwd: Community Notification- Services Relocation > To: dd...@ieee.org > > > FYI > > If you click "CLICK HERE" in the enclosed email, then look to the 2 > page of the PDF, there's something really familiar about the map (-: > > > Brendan > > Original Message > Subject: Community Notification- Services Relocation > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:25:34 +1000 > From: Airport Link Project > To: > > If you are having trouble viewing this email, please click here > > > > Date of issue 10 June 2010 > Ref 0843 > > TOOMBUL/CLAYFIELD > Services Relocation > > From the middle of June, work will be ongoing to relocate power and > lighting services on the southern side of East-West Arterial Road, > western side of Sandgate Road and the corner of Wongara Street and > Sandgate Road. Night works will occur between 6.30pm and 5.00am as > required. > > To view the Services Relocation update please, CLICK HERE. > > Keeping You Informed: > > You can receive regular updates about upcoming work and traffic > changes via community newsletters, construction updates, letterbox > drops and through the project website www.brisconnections.com.au > > For any further information you can call the 24 Hour Community Hotline > on 1800 721 783 or you can stop by the Airport Link Visitor > Information Centre located at Centro Lutwyche shopping centre on > Lutwyche Road (open Wed and Fri 10am-4pm, Thurs 2-7pm and Sat 9am > -12pm). > > Send to a Friend > > Thiess John Holland sends this email update to those who have opted to > receive it. We do not provide your email address to third parties and > we will not use it for any other purpose. > > This email was sent by Thiess John Holland, contac...@tjh.com.au to > > Unsubscribe > > > > > > -- > David Dean > Post-Doctoral Fellow, RP-SAIVT, QUT > (me) http://www.davidbdean.com > (saivt) http://www.bee.qut.edu.au/projects/saivt/ > (post) Room S1101, GPO Box 2434, Brisbane, Australia 4001 > (p) +61 7 3138 1414 (m) 0407 151 912 > (CRICOS) 00213J > -- David Dean Post-Doctoral Fellow, RP-SAIVT, QUT (me) http://www.davidbdean.com (saivt) http://www.bee.qut.edu.au/projects/saivt/ (post) Room S1101, GPO Box 2434, Brisbane, Australia 4001 (p) +61 7 3138 1414 (m) 0407 151 912 (CRICOS) 00213J ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Fwd: Community Notification- Services Relocation
Looks like NearMap or us need to talk to BrisConnections about attribution. - David -- Forwarded message -- From: Brendan Morley Date: 10 June 2010 13:10 Subject: Fwd: Community Notification- Services Relocation To: dd...@ieee.org FYI If you click "CLICK HERE" in the enclosed email, then look to the 2 page of the PDF, there's something really familiar about the map (-: Brendan Original Message Subject: Community Notification- Services Relocation Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:25:34 +1000 From: Airport Link Project To: If you are having trouble viewing this email, please click here Date of issue 10 June 2010 Ref 0843 TOOMBUL/CLAYFIELD Services Relocation >From the middle of June, work will be ongoing to relocate power and lighting services on the southern side of East-West Arterial Road, western side of Sandgate Road and the corner of Wongara Street and Sandgate Road. Night works will occur between 6.30pm and 5.00am as required. To view the Services Relocation update please, CLICK HERE. Keeping You Informed: You can receive regular updates about upcoming work and traffic changes via community newsletters, construction updates, letterbox drops and through the project website www.brisconnections.com.au For any further information you can call the 24 Hour Community Hotline on 1800 721 783 or you can stop by the Airport Link Visitor Information Centre located at Centro Lutwyche shopping centre on Lutwyche Road (open Wed and Fri 10am-4pm, Thurs 2-7pm and Sat 9am -12pm). Send to a Friend Thiess John Holland sends this email update to those who have opted to receive it. We do not provide your email address to third parties and we will not use it for any other purpose. This email was sent by Thiess John Holland, contac...@tjh.com.au to Unsubscribe -- David Dean Post-Doctoral Fellow, RP-SAIVT, QUT (me) http://www.davidbdean.com (saivt) http://www.bee.qut.edu.au/projects/saivt/ (post) Room S1101, GPO Box 2434, Brisbane, Australia 4001 (p) +61 7 3138 1414 (m) 0407 151 912 (CRICOS) 00213J ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 10:56 +1000, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:39 PM, James Livingston > wrote: > > Did you select Nearmap from the background-image setting, or use Edit on > > the Nearmap site? > > Yech. Who to blame, the way Nearmap launches Potlatch, or the way > Potlatch handles being launched externally? Personally, Im glad that potlatch remembers the settings from last time. I dont want to have to go and select my background layer everytime I reload potlatch. Not all potlatch users like the default settings, and Im glad to know that if I make custom changes, such as typing in a background layer URL, that it will be saved for next time. David ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On 10 June 2010 11:10, Jim Croft wrote: > there is one near my place... will try and iPhone it this weekend... Thanks, in the mean time I wrote a stub page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dhorse_stile ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
Four messages in a row. Way to destroy a thread with verbal diarrhoea. *sigh* Steve On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:55 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 9 June 2010 17:29, John Smith wrote: >> On 9 June 2010 17:28, John Smith wrote: >>> Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse >>> stiles... like a turnstile but for horses... >>> >> >> And the americans call them horse hops... >> > > They seem to be called horse stiles in NZ, or maybe it was a brit > taking photos in NZ... > > http://picasaweb.google.com/vivdnz/WhitfordBeach#5233485378494600946 > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
there is one near my place... will try and iPhone it this weekend... jim On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:33 AM, John Smith wrote: > On 10 June 2010 06:49, John Henderson wrote: >> I'm more than happy to go with "barrier=horse_stile", given that established >> usage. I'll change the cavalettis I've already tagged, and look at putting >> a note on the map features page when I take some photos. > > Can someone get a picture of one of these that we can use on the wiki? > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- _ Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft 'A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity.' - Robert Frost, poet (1874-1963) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:39 PM, James Livingston wrote: > Did you select Nearmap from the background-image setting, or use Edit on the > Nearmap site? I did use the latter method once, but the behaviour persists each time I load openstreetmap, and in three different browsers. Ah...the background image setting did get changed to "custom". And it didn't reset the next time I launched openstreetmap normally. Yech. Who to blame, the way Nearmap launches Potlatch, or the way Potlatch handles being launched externally? Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On 10 June 2010 06:49, John Henderson wrote: > I'm more than happy to go with "barrier=horse_stile", given that established > usage. I'll change the cavalettis I've already tagged, and look at putting > a note on the map features page when I take some photos. Can someone get a picture of one of these that we can use on the wiki? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
If there's an extra URL parameter we can supply when launching Potlatch, that will specify the source string, that's an easy change that we can make. Cheers b On 9 June 2010 18:39, James Livingston wrote: > On 09/06/2010, at 1:20 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: >> Err, and just now I notice that when you press "b" in Potlatch, instead of >> creating "source=nearmap", it creates a tag like >> "http://www.nearmap.com/kh/zxy=!,!,!";. Wonder when this change happened, and >> is that a bug? It sure looks like it... > > Did you select Nearmap from the background-image setting, or use Edit on the > Nearmap site? > > The former will get you source=nearmap as it's a potlatch setting, the latter > the url because that's what passed in when launching Potlatch. > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Ben Last Development Manager (HyperWeb) NearMap Pty Ltd ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On 09/06/10 17:28, John Smith wrote: > Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse > stiles... like a turnstile but for horses... Rather than a turnstile, more like the existing "barrier=stile", which allows a walker to cross a fence using rudimentary stairs/steps to climb it. A very simple one in the top photo here: http://www.leapingstiles.co.uk/ I already use that tag for conventional stiles on walking tracks. Thanks for the horse_stile find, reinforced by Simon Biber's research. I'm more than happy to go with "barrier=horse_stile", given that established usage. I'll change the cavalettis I've already tagged, and look at putting a note on the map features page when I take some photos. John H ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
Looks like someone else was asking for the same things to be included already: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/New_barrier_types#other_new_values ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
On 09/06/2010, at 1:20 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > Err, and just now I notice that when you press "b" in Potlatch, instead of > creating "source=nearmap", it creates a tag like > "http://www.nearmap.com/kh/zxy=!,!,!";. Wonder when this change happened, and > is that a bug? It sure looks like it... Did you select Nearmap from the background-image setting, or use Edit on the Nearmap site? The former will get you source=nearmap as it's a potlatch setting, the latter the url because that's what passed in when launching Potlatch. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:29 AM, John Smith wrote: > On 9 June 2010 09:04, Franc Carter wrote: > > One of the things I most wished for from my pre gps days was for maps to > > have turn restrictions marked. > > Is there a good way to do this without cluttering the map? > Good question, my thought was little restriciton signs in the nagle between the affected streets. Not sure how much this would clutter things however cheers > > These have real value and should be displayed prominently on a map > used for driving navigation, maybe OSM needs to start rendering more > specialist maps for specific purposes, but this is a debate for a > different list. > -- Franc ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On 9 June 2010 20:04, Liz wrote: > well we should make one > it may have limited use It'd be nice if there were some Australasian cartographers we could ask about these sorts of map design issues... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Unusual edits.
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Ross Scanlon wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:34:16 +1000 > > Steve Bennett wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: > > > It's just that some of the edits are suspiciously like Brendan_Cherry's > > > > For those of us not familiar with Brendan_Cherry... what's unusual > > about their edits? > > > > Steve > > Brendan_Cherry was the username that vandalised the Perth - Kalgoorlie - > Busselton area in April, with things like The Charlie Sheen Highway etc. > > > If you compare the two edits from these users the style of comments on the > changesets (among other things) are very similar. Especially when you > start looking at the edits closer, small apparently insignicant changes on > one way of a changeset but large numbers of items in the changeset. > > For example adding a name to oneside of a dualcarriageway road and not the > other but deleting the source=nearmap tag from both at the same time, with > 100+ ways in total in the changeset but this is the only change. This is > just one example I found I'm sure if I go through the rest of the > changesets then there will be others. this sounds / smells like a revert target to me ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Ben Last wrote: > On 9 June 2010 12:47, John Smith wrote: > > Most aussie maps show dirt roads as a dashed line, but this might > > upset/confuse the Europeans... > > Is there no tag for "paved with gold"? > > b well we should make one it may have limited use ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:14 AM, John Henderson wrote: > > On trails which horses use, there's often a type of above-ground "cattle > > grid" called a "cavaletti". Typically, it would consist of about 4 > > widely-spaced logs across the track at a height of about a half a metre. > > The idea is that a riderless horse will not cross this (and perhaps > > escape on to a road). > > Oh, is *that* what they're for. I have seen one or two of those > around, like on a bridleway near Rowville, Vic: > > http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-37.958364,145.26343&z=22&t=h&nmd=20100416 > > They're pretty good at stopping mountain bikers too. :) > > Steve > my quick search showed me that motorcyclists were one of their targets ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, John Henderson wrote: > On 09/06/10 09:40, John Smith wrote: > > The name might be correct, but I don't think it is a good choice for a > > name since it doesn't appear even in wikipedia, then again I can't > > seem to find anything better, nor any images of permanent > > installations. > > Almost completely obscured by cyclists, but you get the idea: > > http://members.pcug.org.au/~rmeurone/mtb/bacon03/bacon03-Pages/Image1.html > > It runs parallel to the left-hand fence, where the continuation of that > fence is a cavaletti with parallel log-fence sides. > > John H > > I figured out it was Italian, babelfish didn't help but finally Cavaletti, the Italian word meaning "little horses," plenty of Australian web references to cavaletti ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: > Can you post any links to where you've seen these fixed barriers > referred to anything but jumps? because if you can't prove it to JS you'll be mincemeat on the wiki ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, John Smith wrote: > Generic shop icons, I think it's important that something renders on > the map, even if it's just the name and a generic icon for points of > interest like shops, currently on a select subset of shops are > rendering > http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/3043 if you put a street number, that will render :-$ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
On 9 June 2010 11:20, Steve Bennett wrote: > Err, and just now I notice that when you press "b" in Potlatch, instead of > creating "source=nearmap", it creates a tag like > "http://www.nearmap.com/kh/zxy=!,!,!";. Wonder when this change happened, and > is that a bug? It sure looks like it... It depends on what the background setting in Potlatch is - when clicking Edit on nearmap.com it's set to that value, but if you manually select "Australia: NearMap" in the Potlatch preferences it'll set "source=nearmap". James ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
John Smith wrote: > They seem to be called horse stiles in NZ, or maybe it was a brit > taking photos in NZ... I found the website of an Australian business, Town & Country Maintenance & Fencing, based in northern Adelaide. There's a clear picture and a description on this gallery page: http://townandcountryfences.com.au/index.php?mact=Album,mec8c1,default,1&mec8c1albumid=5&mec8c1returnid=104&page=104 Right-hand column, 4th picture down, is described as "Horse Stile for horse trails to prevent motorbikes being able to access horse trails." Direct link to picture: http://townandcountryfences.com.au/uploads/images/21032009008.jpg Regards, Simon. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
For those not on the talk list, there is a free set of icons someone has produced, these could be useful for adding to trac requests for new things to render: http://www.sjjb.co.uk/mapicons/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On 9 June 2010 17:29, John Smith wrote: > On 9 June 2010 17:28, John Smith wrote: >> Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse >> stiles... like a turnstile but for horses... >> > > And the americans call them horse hops... > They seem to be called horse stiles in NZ, or maybe it was a brit taking photos in NZ... http://picasaweb.google.com/vivdnz/WhitfordBeach#5233485378494600946 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On 9 June 2010 17:28, John Smith wrote: > Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse > stiles... like a turnstile but for horses... > And the americans call them horse hops... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse stiles... like a turnstile but for horses... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On 9 June 2010 17:17, John Henderson wrote: > There's plenty of evidence now that the correct term is "cavaletti". I've > also found a BNT area coordinator, and active horsewoman, referring to them > by that term. Doesn't mean the term hasn't been abused, the only thing on google I can find is about horse jumps, and only the temporary kind, and nothing on wikipedia, this seems to me that they may be called by something else so as not to confuse them with jumps... > I feel that its being a barrier cavaletti and not a jump is completely and > adequately given by the tag "barrier=cavaletti". Can you post any links to where you've seen these fixed barriers referred to anything but jumps? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...
On 09/06/10 16:55, John Smith wrote: > On 9 June 2010 10:08, John Henderson wrote: >> barrier=cattle_grid >> cattle_grid=cavaletti > > What about: > > barrier=horse_grid > > They aren't cattle grids, and they aren't proper cavalettis either > from what I've seen, cavalettis seem to be horse jumps these barriers > aren't meant to be jumped, in fact they make them large enough to > dissuade a horse from crossing at all without a little extra > encouragement. There's plenty of evidence now that the correct term is "cavaletti". I've also found a BNT area coordinator, and active horsewoman, referring to them by that term. "horse_grid" is potentially much more ambiguous. I feel that its being a barrier cavaletti and not a jump is completely and adequately given by the tag "barrier=cavaletti". John H ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au