Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 39, Issue 18

2010-09-21 Thread Vaidila Kungys
 or the uk.rec.cycling newsgroup) you'll find a hard
 core
 of committed cyclists who feel that many NCN routes can be inconvenient and
 badly designed, and would rate them at 4 or 5. And so on. We've had this
 debate several times beforehand -
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Cycleworth is
 one
 example.

 You can, of course, create a 'mashup' by using OSM data as a base, and
 designing a website (or printed map) that superimposes your own subjective
 rankings on top. That's one way to go.

 The other (and best) way is to tag the individual factors within OSM which
 make a good route: surface, traffic levels, incidence of annoying traffic
 lights, etc. etc. Your routing or rendering setup can then juggle these to
 get an estimate of what's cycle-friendly according to your own preferred
 metrics. Traffic levels are hard to tag accurately, but in OSM, we iterate
 towards accuracy: so you could make an estimate (based on counting traffic
 in the other direction as you cycle along a road) of, say, 1000 vehicles
 per
 hour, and when someone comes up with a better methodology they'll correct
 it.

 cc:ed to the international tagging list.

 cheers
 Richard
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 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:45:43 +1000
 From: Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com
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 Subject: Re: [talk-au] Tags for bicycle friendly streets (Ride the
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 Hi.

 I don't know about other places in Australia, but for Sydney we are doing
 well simply to have marked cycle routes mapped at all.

 I thought the rating system was only proposed. Is it actually used for
 anything? i.e. Is there any routing system that uses it?

  - Ben Kelley.
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[talk-au] OSM alternatives...

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
It doesn't seem likely things are going to be resolved to everyone's
liking, in fact there seems to be a new type of service popping up
every other week.

So to this end I just filed a bug with JOSM asking to get multiple
credentials stored and some easy way to switch between them. This is
so you don't need to run JOSM under multiple usernames when you are
playing with or editing data on various other services that are
compatible with the OSM APIs.

https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/5490

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Re: [talk-au] OSM alternatives...

2010-09-21 Thread Andrew Laughton
 So to this end I just filed a bug with JOSM asking to get multiple
 credentials stored and some easy way to switch between them.
To me this means multiple username and password combinations, all with
the same OSM site.
I think you should spell out that we need JOSM to be able to be used
on different mapping sites.

Do you happen to know of any other mapping web sites ?
I have not looked but I suspect a few people would at least be
thinking about forking OSM.



On 22 September 2010 11:45, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
 It doesn't seem likely things are going to be resolved to everyone's
 liking, in fact there seems to be a new type of service popping up
 every other week.

 So to this end I just filed a bug with JOSM asking to get multiple
 credentials stored and some easy way to switch between them. This is
 so you don't need to run JOSM under multiple usernames when you are
 playing with or editing data on various other services that are
 compatible with the OSM APIs.

 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/5490

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Re: [talk-au] OSM alternatives...

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 September 2010 14:16, Andrew Laughton laughton.and...@gmail.com wrote:
 To me this means multiple username and password combinations, all with
 the same OSM site.
 I think you should spell out that we need JOSM to be able to be used
 on different mapping sites.

It would also be useful for switching between the OSM dev and live
servers too...

 Do you happen to know of any other mapping web sites ?
 I have not looked but I suspect a few people would at least be
 thinking about forking OSM.

There is only one public service that I'm aware of at this stage,
http://fosm.org (cc-by-sa)

There is a few others, but aren't accepting user submissions yet,
commonmap (cc-by) and USGS (CC0/PD)

There is a couple of others, but they are currently private.

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Re: [talk-au] OSM alternatives...

2010-09-21 Thread Andrew Laughton
http://fosm.org give instructions on how to change JOSM so that it uses FOSM.



On 22 September 2010 12:23, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 22 September 2010 14:16, Andrew Laughton laughton.and...@gmail.com wrote:
 To me this means multiple username and password combinations, all with
 the same OSM site.
 I think you should spell out that we need JOSM to be able to be used
 on different mapping sites.

 It would also be useful for switching between the OSM dev and live
 servers too...

 Do you happen to know of any other mapping web sites ?
 I have not looked but I suspect a few people would at least be
 thinking about forking OSM.

 There is only one public service that I'm aware of at this stage,
 http://fosm.org (cc-by-sa)

 There is a few others, but aren't accepting user submissions yet,
 commonmap (cc-by) and USGS (CC0/PD)

 There is a couple of others, but they are currently private.


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Re: [talk-au] OSM alternatives...

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 September 2010 14:30, Andrew Laughton laughton.and...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://fosm.org give instructions on how to change JOSM so that it uses FOSM.

Yes, but you loose any authentication information for OSM and vice
versa if you switch between them, that is unless you run JOSM under
multiple accounts or some other hack that would store different copies
of the config

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