[talk-au] Having accurate maps
I thought I'd share something I realised today when I went out for a Sunday ride. Having accurate maps isn't just good for navigation purposes, but it's almost borders on a safety aspect since knowing how sharp and the location of upcoming bends allows you to be more prepared and at some points was much more useful than the warning signs that get erected to give you suggested speed information. This is one area that community data for Australia seems to excel over commercial data, it more often than not seems to be a lot more accurate and up to date. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] OSM-F seems to be a sinking ship... (was: Wiki + Data Sources + Licensing Categories)
[snip] It's starting to become painfully obvious that OSM-F wouldn't be able to organise a piss up in a brewery, and there seems to be little or no chance that they can actually pull off the license change over in some kind of demotactic, moral and smooth change over so I'm basically writing them off for all future edits as a complete waste of time. A couple of us are toying about with what to do next, fosm.org seems the most suitable at present since the idea is to continue on with CC-by-SA licenses, although there is still debate over which CC-by-SA license due to issues with the European Database Directive, but that doesn't have any effect on us in Australia until and unless the Australian government decides to do something similar if Telstra et al push now that copyright doesn't protect their data. What do others think, or have planned if OSM-F keeps heading into the lost cause territory? I am just starting to investigate/think-about this - I will be looking for something that stays close to the current license. Apart from the legal/ethical issues my biggest concern is compatibility with NearMap and Australian government data. cheers ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Franc ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors
Hi, This sums up me too. After years of mapping in Australia (when I started in Tasmania the map was literally blank) the threat of data deletion is the most de-motivating thing ever. I have used nearmap so I am of the understanding I CAN'T accept the terms. I also agree that many who accept probably have no idea of the legal issues and will be creating tainted data. I am waiting for an outcome and hoping for the best but the longer I wait the the more de-motivated I become and the community has certainly lost momentum. There is no incentive to keep mapping while there is a chance all of your work will be deleted in the future. Like Michael sometimes I can't help myself and do some more mapping, but it still feels futile. Cheers, Neal On 07/04/2011, at 10:57 PM, Michael Hampson wrote: I hear you Liz and All Blokes, it is sad. Really tried to ignore the politics as I just wanted to map things to help out the local community and since I heard about the changes I have almost given up. Now I only map when I can't help myself. Might be time to retire from my mapping and let someone else do the Empires work!! ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors
Neal wrote This sums up me too. Hi Neal, If you do want do do some mapping then there is still a way to do it. Create a new account, accept the CT's and then If you want to do some survey mapping, just be careful not to work on areas that have been mapped or touched by OSMers who have stated that they will never accept either the OSM CT or licence change. If you want to do some mapping from home, then BING imagery is usually more than adequete and is and will continue to be OSM comliant. This way your efforts will not be in vain whether you stay with OSM, or branch off to another project. Cheers Nick ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors
On 11 April 2011 13:45, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Create a new account, accept the CT's and then Has the CTs been updated to allow for this, or do they still refer to a natural person? Also that doesn't help if someone only wishes to support projects using share a like licenses. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
