Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-05 Thread Ben Johnson
On 03/12/2011, at 9:10, Mark Pulley  wrote:

> On 02/12/2011, at 2:13 PM, Ben Kelley wrote:
> 
>> The content of these edits is in the public domain (I.e. the default 
>> residential speed limit in Australia) and these edits could be "re-edited" 
>> by an actual bot. Given that these edits are easy to identify, and the large 
>> number of ways, this might be a useful exercise. It would give us a clearer 
>> in terms of knowing which ways are really in need of re-mapping.
>> 
>> Ben Kelley
>> 
> 
> Just be aware that some of these have been re-edited - I have corrected some 
> of these maxspeeds when they were wrong, and where they were correct I have 
> changed the source tag. ...
> 
> Mark P.

Likewise, I actually (manually) added maxspeed=50 along with 
maxspeed:source=default residential etc... (word for word) to many ways i 
created in the belief that this was some kind of accepted standard being used 
in Australia.

If I need to go back and change them I can, but it there are many more others 
like me out there then any undo/redo bot might need to consider this.

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Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-05 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 6 December 2011 11:40, Ben Johnson  wrote:


> Likewise, I actually (manually) added maxspeed=50 along with
> maxspeed:source=default residential etc... (word for word) to many ways i
> created in the belief that this was some kind of accepted standard being
> used in Australia.
>

If you've agreed to the CT, then I can't see ways you have created being
removed by any automated process just because you have used a particular
form.  The bot edits were made from an account that has declined the CTs,
and they are the target here.

However, did you add this source after verifying the maxspeed, or did you
just guess?

If you have actually verified the maxspeed, it is important that you update
the source to be survey, or the like.  People do go and check unverified
information like this, and it adds efficiency when edits accurately reflect
the source.

Ian.
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Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-05 Thread info
> Likewise, I actually (manually) added maxspeed=50 along with
> maxspeed:source=default residential etc... (word for word) to many ways i
> created in the belief that this was some kind of accepted standard being
> used in Australia.
>

You might want to revisit these as the maxspeed:source should have been
source:maxspeed

The originator of the bot made a mistake with this and was going to fix it
but the pre licence change lockout prevented this.

Cheers
Ross



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Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-05 Thread Ben Johnson

On 06/12/2011, at 12:00 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote:


On 6 December 2011 11:40, Ben Johnson  wrote:

Likewise, I actually (manually) added maxspeed=50 along with  
maxspeed:source=default residential etc... (word for word) to many  
ways i created in the belief that this was some kind of accepted  
standard being used in Australia.


If you've agreed to the CT, then I can't see ways you have created  
being removed by any automated process just because you have used a  
particular form.  The bot edits were made from an account that has  
declined the CTs, and they are the target here.


However, did you add this source after verifying the maxspeed, or  
did you just guess?


If you have actually verified the maxspeed, it is important that you  
update the source to be survey, or the like.  People do go and check  
unverified information like this, and it adds efficiency when edits  
accurately reflect the source.


Ian.


They need to be verified. I regularly visit the areas I'm working on  
and I mostly use voice recordings. Have been focusing on street names  
which I spell out from signs, and very interested in house numbers.  
Speed limits were an afterthought but I figured it would be a good  
start just to use 50 with the "default blah blah..." as I'd seen  
everywhere else for the residential streets.  Will change them to  
"survey" or "sign" ... or the like once verified.


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Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-05 Thread Ben Johnson

On 06/12/2011, at 4:19 PM, i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:


Likewise, I actually (manually) added maxspeed=50 along with
maxspeed:source=default residential etc... (word for word) to many  
ways i
created in the belief that this was some kind of accepted standard  
being

used in Australia.



You might want to revisit these as the maxspeed:source should have  
been

source:maxspeed

The originator of the bot made a mistake with this and was going to  
fix it

but the pre licence change lockout prevented this.


Ouch. Thanks for the heads-up.

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