[talk-au] JOSM uploads past 2000 points
Hi I am all to aware of the 2000 node limit with OSM but when using JOSM to create lakes as multipolygons from multiple ways it is easier to create the ways, link them a multipolygon relationship, tag properties and upload. JOSM then creates a change set and gives five tries and fails so if you hit upload again it tries again. Strangely if I use Polatch 2 to check I nearly always find the lake is added to OSM. On at least one occasion JOSM uploaded the lake more than once. In fact five times. I have to exit JOSM and restart it to avoid the changeset wanting to endlessly upload, Has anyone else experienced this issue. Reading on the web suggests this is a common problem with some claiming a configuration setting in JOSM can eliminate this issue. As usual any help would be appreciated as you can imagine it is frustrating when mapping large lakes. Cheers Brett ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM uploads past 2000 points
Ok the strangeness continues. I reloaded the area in Polatch 2 and nothing was downloaded as the area is blank but the lake shows in Polatch 2. For anyone interested it is Eagle Lake in Tasmania created by Ent. Cheers From: brussell...@live.com.au To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:39:18 +1030 Subject: [talk-au] JOSM uploads past 2000 points Hi I am all to aware of the 2000 node limit with OSM but when using JOSM to create lakes as multipolygons from multiple ways it is easier to create the ways, link them a multipolygon relationship, tag properties and upload. JOSM then creates a change set and gives five tries and fails so if you hit upload again it tries again. Strangely if I use Polatch 2 to check I nearly always find the lake is added to OSM. On at least one occasion JOSM uploaded the lake more than once. In fact five times. I have to exit JOSM and restart it to avoid the changeset wanting to endlessly upload, Has anyone else experienced this issue. Reading on the web suggests this is a common problem with some claiming a configuration setting in JOSM can eliminate this issue. As usual any help would be appreciated as you can imagine it is frustrating when mapping large lakes. Cheers Brett ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] fixme=continue nodes
Hi folks I'm trying to tidy up and label some of the streets around my house (bateman) and I noticed http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1831700852 is this just a pointer node that someone left as an aide memoir? if so can I nuke it - can't see any reason otherwise for them Andrew ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] fixme=continue nodes
Yes… your instincts are right. Just nuke it. :-) On 25/06/2013, at 12:49 PM, Andrew Elwell wrote: > Hi folks > > I'm trying to tidy up and label some of the streets around my house > (bateman) and I noticed > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1831700852 > > is this just a pointer node that someone left as an aide memoir? if so > can I nuke it - can't see any reason otherwise for them > > Andrew > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM uploads past 2000 points
Hi Ross Thanks for the info. I will give it a shot and look for the node count. I have when creating a way found hovering back over it down the bottom of the screen it will tell me the nodes used. What I have found if I create a way of say 1500 nodes and upload, then create another way of say the same number of nodes, and then upload and finally then create a multipolygon relationship and tag the properties and upload all works well. But if I do it in one step and then upload I strike the mentioned problem. My worry is multiple uploads as they are a pain to find, edit and or remove. Just want to keep OSM data a clean as possible and not corrupt the database. >From memory moving a large multipolygon lake in JOSM creates a similar >problem. So I align lakes in Polatch 2 and all works well. Finding JOSM very powerful but still very much a newbie with it. Cheers Brett Russell PO Box 94 Launceston Tas. 7250 Australia 0419 374 971 On 25/06/2013, at 1:25 PM, "Ross Scanlon" wrote: >> Hi >> >> I am all to aware of the 2000 node limit with OSM but when using JOSM to >> create lakes as multipolygons from multiple ways it is easier to create >> the ways, link them a multipolygon relationship, tag properties and >> upload. JOSM then creates a change set and gives five tries and fails so >> if you hit upload again it tries again. Strangely if I use Polatch 2 to >> check I nearly always find the lake is added to OSM. On at least one >> occasion JOSM uploaded the lake more than once. In fact five times. I >> have to exit JOSM and restart it to avoid the changeset wanting to >> endlessly upload, > > Rather than restarting josm: > > Upload->Changesets->Upload to a new Changeset > > The old changeset will time out and you can upload to new changeset(s) from > there on. > >> Has anyone else experienced this issue. Reading on the web suggests this >> is a common problem with some claiming a configuration setting in JOSM >> can eliminate this issue. > > Don't know about a config setting but if you have the Selection panel open on > the right hand side of the window, then select the object it will tell you > how many nodes are used by it. It is then a simple matter to split > (Tools->Split Way) the way into two (or more) pieces. If its a loop way then > select two (or more) nodes on opposite sides and then split it. > > If you do the split after adding all the tags or creating the multipolygon > they are copied to the new way. > > Cheers > Ross > > >> As usual any help would be appreciated as you can imagine it is >> frustrating when mapping large lakes. >> >> Cheers >> >> Brett >> >> ___ Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM uploads past 2000 points
Hi, I don't know quite what happened, but the relation and all the ways were duplicated four times. I deleted three of them. You can specify in the advanced settings of josm to upload the changeset in smaller chunks. I find this is useful. Ian. On 25 June 2013 13:43, Brett Russell wrote: > Hi Ross > > Thanks for the info. I will give it a shot and look for the node count. > > I have when creating a way found hovering back over it down the bottom of > the screen it will tell me the nodes used. > > What I have found if I create a way of say 1500 nodes and upload, then > create another way of say the same number of nodes, and then upload and > finally then create a multipolygon relationship and tag the properties and > upload all works well. But if I do it in one step and then upload I strike > the mentioned problem. My worry is multiple uploads as they are a pain to > find, edit and or remove. Just want to keep OSM data a clean as possible > and not corrupt the database. > > From memory moving a large multipolygon lake in JOSM creates a similar > problem. So I align lakes in Polatch 2 and all works well. > > Finding JOSM very powerful but still very much a newbie with it. > > Cheers > Brett Russell > PO Box 94 > Launceston Tas. 7250 > Australia > 0419 374 971 > > On 25/06/2013, at 1:25 PM, "Ross Scanlon" wrote: > > >> Hi > >> > >> I am all to aware of the 2000 node limit with OSM but when using JOSM to > >> create lakes as multipolygons from multiple ways it is easier to create > >> the ways, link them a multipolygon relationship, tag properties and > >> upload. JOSM then creates a change set and gives five tries and fails so > >> if you hit upload again it tries again. Strangely if I use Polatch 2 to > >> check I nearly always find the lake is added to OSM. On at least one > >> occasion JOSM uploaded the lake more than once. In fact five times. I > >> have to exit JOSM and restart it to avoid the changeset wanting to > >> endlessly upload, > > > > Rather than restarting josm: > > > > Upload->Changesets->Upload to a new Changeset > > > > The old changeset will time out and you can upload to new changeset(s) > from there on. > > > >> Has anyone else experienced this issue. Reading on the web suggests this > >> is a common problem with some claiming a configuration setting in JOSM > >> can eliminate this issue. > > > > Don't know about a config setting but if you have the Selection panel > open on the right hand side of the window, then select the object it will > tell you how many nodes are used by it. It is then a simple matter to > split (Tools->Split Way) the way into two (or more) pieces. If its a loop > way then select two (or more) nodes on opposite sides and then split it. > > > > If you do the split after adding all the tags or creating the > multipolygon they are copied to the new way. > > > > Cheers > > Ross > > > > > >> As usual any help would be appreciated as you can imagine it is > >> frustrating when mapping large lakes. > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Brett > >> > >> ___ Talk-au mailing list > >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Talk-au mailing list > >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM uploads past 2000 points
Hi I am all to aware of the 2000 node limit with OSM but when using JOSM to create lakes as multipolygons from multiple ways it is easier to create the ways, link them a multipolygon relationship, tag properties and upload. JOSM then creates a change set and gives five tries and fails so if you hit upload again it tries again. Strangely if I use Polatch 2 to check I nearly always find the lake is added to OSM. On at least one occasion JOSM uploaded the lake more than once. In fact five times. I have to exit JOSM and restart it to avoid the changeset wanting to endlessly upload, Rather than restarting josm: Upload->Changesets->Upload to a new Changeset The old changeset will time out and you can upload to new changeset(s) from there on. Has anyone else experienced this issue. Reading on the web suggests this is a common problem with some claiming a configuration setting in JOSM can eliminate this issue. Don't know about a config setting but if you have the Selection panel open on the right hand side of the window, then select the object it will tell you how many nodes are used by it. It is then a simple matter to split (Tools->Split Way) the way into two (or more) pieces. If its a loop way then select two (or more) nodes on opposite sides and then split it. If you do the split after adding all the tags or creating the multipolygon they are copied to the new way. Cheers Ross As usual any help would be appreciated as you can imagine it is frustrating when mapping large lakes. Cheers Brett ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
