[talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread SomeoneElse
Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of 
edits upgrading unfinished motorways to "constructed" status.  The same 
user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is:


http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20479197

Are these valid (i.e. have these roads been completed ahead of schedule) 
or is there a problem here as well?


Cheers,

Andy


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Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread Leon Kernan
Shepparton bypass is still at the proposed stage according to Vicroads.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/RoadProjects/PlanningAndProposals/Regional/GoulburnValleyHighwayShepparton.htm


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:03 AM, SomeoneElse wrote:

> Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of
> edits upgrading unfinished motorways to "constructed" status.  The same
> user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20479197
>
> Are these valid (i.e. have these roads been completed ahead of schedule)
> or is there a problem here as well?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andy
>
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Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread Leon Kernan
And going through his other edits, the Western Highway around Ballarat
needs to be reverted to construction.
Clearly he has no idea what he is doing here.


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Leon Kernan  wrote:

> Shepparton bypass is still at the proposed stage according to Vicroads.
>
>
> http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/RoadProjects/PlanningAndProposals/Regional/GoulburnValleyHighwayShepparton.htm
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:03 AM, SomeoneElse 
> wrote:
>
>> Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of
>> edits upgrading unfinished motorways to "constructed" status.  The same
>> user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is:
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20479197
>>
>> Are these valid (i.e. have these roads been completed ahead of schedule)
>> or is there a problem here as well?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Andy
>>
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Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread Leon Kernan
Sorry guys, another one.

This change is just pure vandalism.  He's created non-existent freeways and
roads around Ballarat.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20425446


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Leon Kernan  wrote:

> And going through his other edits, the Western Highway around Ballarat
> needs to be reverted to construction.
> Clearly he has no idea what he is doing here.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Leon Kernan  wrote:
>
>> Shepparton bypass is still at the proposed stage according to Vicroads.
>>
>>
>> http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/RoadProjects/PlanningAndProposals/Regional/GoulburnValleyHighwayShepparton.htm
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:03 AM, SomeoneElse > > wrote:
>>
>>> Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of
>>> edits upgrading unfinished motorways to "constructed" status.  The same
>>> user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is:
>>>
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20479197
>>>
>>> Are these valid (i.e. have these roads been completed ahead of schedule)
>>> or is there a problem here as well?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
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Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread SomeoneElse

Leon Kernan wrote:

Sorry guys, another one.

This change is just pure vandalism.  He's created non-existent 
freeways and roads around Ballarat.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20425446



Has anyone got any idea about the NSW ones such as:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20409456

Would it be possible to put together a list of changes that need 
reverting (or is that just "everything")?


If someone more local than me wants to have a go at the reversions that 
would make sense (more likely to be able to resolve any edit clashes 
correctly), but if not I could have a go once the full list of changes 
to revert is known.


Cheers,

Andy


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Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread Stéphane Guillou

Hi all

I am not of great help here as it is all out of Queensland, but has 
anyone written to ask them to justify their edits? It would at least 
make them know we are keeping an eye on them, and if it is purely 
sneaky vandalism, scare them off.


Cheers, and good spotting!

chtfn

On Tue 11 Feb 2014 09:11:36 EST, SomeoneElse wrote:

Leon Kernan wrote:

Sorry guys, another one.

This change is just pure vandalism.  He's created non-existent
freeways and roads around Ballarat.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20425446



Has anyone got any idea about the NSW ones such as:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20409456

Would it be possible to put together a list of changes that need
reverting (or is that just "everything")?

If someone more local than me wants to have a go at the reversions
that would make sense (more likely to be able to resolve any edit
clashes correctly), but if not I could have a go once the full list of
changes to revert is known.

Cheers,

Andy


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Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread Ross Scanlon
Maybe if it's vandalism you should read the section on vandalism in the 
wiki.


Has anyone contacted the user.

Cheers
Ross


On 11/02/14 09:11, SomeoneElse wrote:

Leon Kernan wrote:

Sorry guys, another one.

This change is just pure vandalism.  He's created non-existent
freeways and roads around Ballarat.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20425446



Has anyone got any idea about the NSW ones such as:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20409456

Would it be possible to put together a list of changes that need
reverting (or is that just "everything")?

If someone more local than me wants to have a go at the reversions that
would make sense (more likely to be able to resolve any edit clashes
correctly), but if not I could have a go once the full list of changes
to revert is known.

Cheers,

Andy


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Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread SomeoneElse

Stéphane Guillou wrote:

 but has anyone written to ask them to justify their edits?


Yes - one of the Scottish guys who spotted the problems north of 
Edinburgh in the UK.  I mentioned it here because I figured that not too 
many people would be suscribed to both talk-gb and talk-au.


Cheers,

Andy


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Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread Jason Ward
Its touched on in the Vandalism Wiki but not referred to the DWG page but
if there is not a suitable response then bringing it to the attention of
the Data Working Group for user blocking is the next step I guess.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group#User_Blocks

It suggest contacting them via the address at the bottom of that page.  If
no response is made and the edits continue I would suggest that be the next
step (if it hasn't been suggested already) although if what has been done
is an obvious vandalism attempt then I'd be referring the issue to the DWG.

Cheers,

Jason


On 11 February 2014 09:43, SomeoneElse  wrote:

> Stéphane Guillou wrote:
>
>>  but has anyone written to ask them to justify their edits?
>>
>
> Yes - one of the Scottish guys who spotted the problems north of Edinburgh
> in the UK.  I mentioned it here because I figured that not too many people
> would be suscribed to both talk-gb and talk-au.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andy
>
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Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread Mark Pulley
On 11 Feb 2014, at 2:03 am, SomeoneElse  wrote:

> Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of 
> edits upgrading unfinished motorways to "constructed" status.  The same user 
> has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is:


Here’s another one, done about half an hour ago. I haven’t reverted it at this 
stage.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20497896

‘North South Motorway’ in Adelaide.

Mark P.


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