Re: [talk-au] The Australian Productivity Commission public inquiry on Data Availability and Use.

2016-07-18 Thread Edoardo Neerhut
Thanks for sharing this Nev. Will put in a submission.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Nev Wedding  wrote:

> for info…
> The public inquiry will investigate ways to improve the availability and
> use of public and private sector data.
> The Australian Productivity Commission has released an issues paper and is
> asking for feedback.
> Initial submissions are due by Friday 29 July 2016.
>
> http://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries/current/data-access
>
> ___
> Talk-au mailing list
> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
>
>


-- 
Kind regards,

Ed & The Mapillary Team
___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia (Andy Townsend)

2016-07-18 Thread Andy Townsend

On 18/07/2016 14:13, Warren wrote:
I am reasonably local.  Both areas have had recent road building.  But 
I think they are now complete.  I will divert when I am close and 
resort to a gps trace. 


Excellent stuff - thanks.

Best Regards,

Andy


___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] Possible illegal imports in Western Australia (Andy Townsend)

2016-07-18 Thread Warren
sed in the response, which in itself would be a killer.

It depends if it's part of the license or a reminder that in Australia
there are other laws that may effect what you can do with the data.

If it's the former, the data is not available under CC BY 4.0 or an
open license and they're falsely advertising that the data is
available under an open license. If it's a reminder then it doesn't
add any new requirements.

If they want it to be a reminder, I'd suggest wording like

Users are reminded that the Australian Privacy Principles under the
Privacy Act 1988 (Cth) may impose additional restrictions on how they
use the data.

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

-- next part --
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/attachments/20160718/a931e690/attachment-0001.html>

--

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:48:44 +1000
From: Frank 
To: talk-au 
Subject: [talk-au] Almost finished LPI Post Offices
Message-ID: <100bd62d-56d2-5225-bc91-f9c26784d...@optusnet.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi,

I have almost finished including the LPI Post Offices.

I have completed country NSW and ACT. These were checked with the Ozie
post website to 'see' if they were still current.. where not I tagged
them obsolete:amenity=post_office ... so they won't render but still be
in the data base for others to see. I have yet to complete the Sydney,
Wollongong and Newcastle areas. I have added addresses from the LPI base
map where I could determine it, a few of these differed from the Ozie
post data .. but either not significantly, or if there is doubt then I
included a fixme tag. All of my additions have a source tag.

I did notice that the past OSM post offices entries had some short
comings - no name, name=Australia Post .. and almost certainly no
address. Of course I did not replace these .. even where the LPI data
indicated a displacement of over 80 metres .. I regarded that as close
enough for walking distance. One was tagged source survey .. but it is
over the road in another building .. connected by a covered bridge ..
left that one there too .. but added name.

Once completed I will go back over my obsolete:amenity entries to
confirm that they are in fact obsolete ... I have noticed some
exceptions due to the way the Ozie post web search operates. :-!



So once I finish .. then there are lots more to do.

Libraries, tourist offices, police stations for example.

If you want to do areas .. then parks, as in city/town parks?

For addresses then adding that to the major population centres streets
would be helpfull.


What will I add next to the map?

  From the LPI data .. something of use to me (i.e. none of the above :-) ).

For 'housekeeping' on the map? sport=football sport=multi and
sport=hockey still annoy me but they have little impact on the map. Yet
to clarify the city/town/hamlet problem for Australia... I need to work
on the data, particularly the population data. Yes, I know some think
that services is a better way .. but I still think that the population
gives a very good indication and can be used as a primary iteration of
the classification. And will identify those that need 'looking at'.

For the OSMwiki ..

Document sport=long_jump, tipple_jump, discus_throw and hammer_throw.

Clarify the words on the Australian tagging guide lines for 'access=no'
problem, probably more important than the sports documentation?







--

Subject: Digest Footer

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


--

End of Talk-au Digest, Vol 109, Issue 16




___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] Wikidata IDs in OSM

2016-07-18 Thread Marc Gemis
I guess you are aware that one of the recent updates of iD adds the
wikidata code when you add the wikipedia page ?
The feature is described in https://www.mapbox.com/blog/id-wikidata/
This makes it rather easy to add both tag.
It will also search for the wikipedia page when you start typing the
wikipedia page name

regards

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Andrew Harvey  wrote:
>> Secondly, we have had success in using a bot to add IDs automatically,
>> but the bot approval list requires local agreement. How would you feel
>> about us, or one of you (I think the code can be shared), doing so for
>> all of Australia, or on a state-by-state (or other division) basis?
>
> Interesting, I recently had a go at adding Wikidata IDs into OSM for
> some features in Australia, but I quickly gave up on the manual
> process.
>
> I'm keen an an automated/semi-automated approach, but of course it
> would be important that any automated process didn't overwrite
> existing wikidata keys (but maybe reported them for follow up if they
> are in conflict).
>
> Interested in what others here think.
>
> ___
> Talk-au mailing list
> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


Re: [talk-au] Wikidata IDs in OSM

2016-07-18 Thread Andrew Harvey
> Secondly, we have had success in using a bot to add IDs automatically,
> but the bot approval list requires local agreement. How would you feel
> about us, or one of you (I think the code can be shared), doing so for
> all of Australia, or on a state-by-state (or other division) basis?

Interesting, I recently had a go at adding Wikidata IDs into OSM for
some features in Australia, but I quickly gave up on the manual
process.

I'm keen an an automated/semi-automated approach, but of course it
would be important that any automated process didn't overwrite
existing wikidata keys (but maybe reported them for follow up if they
are in conflict).

Interested in what others here think.

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au


[talk-au] Wikidata IDs in OSM

2016-07-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
Hi folks,

Up here in the UK, and elsewhere, we're adding Wikidata IDs to objects in OSM.

For example:

   http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/22814079

includes the ID "Q5642705", which refers to:

   https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5642705

Firstly, I'd like to encourage you to add IDs manually, as described at:

   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikidata

Secondly, we have had success in using a bot to add IDs automatically,
but the bot approval list requires local agreement. How would you feel
about us, or one of you (I think the code can be shared), doing so for
all of Australia, or on a state-by-state (or other division) basis?

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

___
Talk-au mailing list
Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au