Re: [talk-au] Use of AIS message as input to OSM
Having a look at the mapping guidelines I did find Beacons https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Seamarks/Beacons can have Radio Stations https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Seamarks/Radio_Stations including seamark:radio_station:category=ais "An AIS radiobeacon on a seamark that reports its own position" and a lot of other AIS radio station types including some that aren't really a buoy there - virtual! ( http://www.professionalmariner.com/August-2014/synthetic-aids-virtual-buoys/ ) I can find some seamarks but not radio stations in NSW https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/EVh http://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=16&lat=-33.87089&lon=151.18538&mlat=-33.87079&mlon=151.18459&layers=BFTFFTF0FF But I did find a red buoy near Macau that is AIS enabled https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5793357137 http://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=16&lat=22.11957&lon=113.61184&layers=BFTFFTF0FF So I assume one must do some seaside mapping using some kind of radio like an SDR to get the position data? https://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl-sdr-tutorial-cheap-ais-ship-tracking/ On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 6:34 PM Marc Gemis wrote: > AFAIK, OpenSeaMap is dedicated rendering based on the same > OpenStreetMap database as the map of e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org > The OpenSeaMap project also defines certain tags that are only used > for navigation on water. See [1] for more info on how it works. > > So on one hand they are already combined (use the same database), but > they are also separate (OpenSeaMap provides their own rendering of the > data). > > regards > > m. > > [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:17 AM Arthur Geeson wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I would like to use the position data received from Automatic > Identification System (AIS) messages that are used for navigational aids > for marine ships to plot the position of these piles on the OSM but I am > not sure if this would be copy right information? > > > > Perhaps we could have a 'source - AIS' ? > > > > Looking at the OSM wiki I find that there is a 'man_made - beacon' tag. > Further searching I find there is an OpenSeaMap. I am not sure why we > would need OpenStreetMap and OpenSeaMap should these not be combined? > However if they are separate so be it. It would seem that OpenSeaMap has a > number of suitable icons but I was not able to search it. Basically AIS > does not seem to be supported on either of the maps. > > > > MarineTraffic.com uses the OpenStreetMap to display the positions of > many thousands of ships around the world based on AIS input. > > > > Is anyone able to help? > > > > Thanks - Arthur > > ___ > > Talk-au mailing list > > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Use of AIS message as input to OSM
AFAIK, OpenSeaMap is dedicated rendering based on the same OpenStreetMap database as the map of e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org The OpenSeaMap project also defines certain tags that are only used for navigation on water. See [1] for more info on how it works. So on one hand they are already combined (use the same database), but they are also separate (OpenSeaMap provides their own rendering of the data). regards m. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:17 AM Arthur Geeson wrote: > > Hi, > > I would like to use the position data received from Automatic Identification > System (AIS) messages that are used for navigational aids for marine ships to > plot the position of these piles on the OSM but I am not sure if this would > be copy right information? > > Perhaps we could have a 'source - AIS' ? > > Looking at the OSM wiki I find that there is a 'man_made - beacon' tag. > Further searching I find there is an OpenSeaMap. I am not sure why we would > need OpenStreetMap and OpenSeaMap should these not be combined? However if > they are separate so be it. It would seem that OpenSeaMap has a number of > suitable icons but I was not able to search it. Basically AIS does not seem > to be supported on either of the maps. > > MarineTraffic.com uses the OpenStreetMap to display the positions of many > thousands of ships around the world based on AIS input. > > Is anyone able to help? > > Thanks - Arthur > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Use of AIS message as input to OSM
On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 16:17, Arthur Geeson wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to use the position data received from Automatic > Identification System (AIS) messages that are used for navigational aids > for marine ships to plot the position of these piles on the OSM but I am > not sure if this would be copy right information? > What are you actually wanting to map, Arthur? Anchorages, nav aids, what? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Use of AIS message as input to OSM
I would also ask here https://www.operations.amsa.gov.au/Spatial/DataServices/DigitalData But it looks like it may not be compatible with open Street requirements https://www.operations.amsa.gov.au/Spatial/DataServices/Copyright https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility From: Arthur Geeson [mailto:ag200...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2019 5:16 PM To: OSM Australia mailing list Subject: [talk-au] Use of AIS message as input to OSM Hi, I would like to use the position data received from Automatic Identification System (AIS) messages that are used for navigational aids for marine ships to plot the position of these piles on the OSM but I am not sure if this would be copy right information? Perhaps we could have a 'source - AIS' ? Looking at the OSM wiki I find that there is a 'man_made - beacon' tag. Further searching I find there is an OpenSeaMap. I am not sure why we would need OpenStreetMap and OpenSeaMap should these not be combined? However if they are separate so be it. It would seem that OpenSeaMap has a number of suitable icons but I was not able to search it. Basically AIS does not seem to be supported on either of the maps. MarineTraffic.com uses the OpenStreetMap to display the positions of many thousands of ships around the world based on AIS input. Is anyone able to help? Thanks - Arthur ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Use of AIS message as input to OSM
Hi, I would like to use the position data received from Automatic Identification System (AIS) messages that are used for navigational aids for marine ships to plot the position of these piles on the OSM but I am not sure if this would be copy right information? Perhaps we could have a 'source - AIS' ? Looking at the OSM wiki I find that there is a 'man_made - beacon' tag. Further searching I find there is an OpenSeaMap. I am not sure why we would need OpenStreetMap and OpenSeaMap should these not be combined? However if they are separate so be it. It would seem that OpenSeaMap has a number of suitable icons but I was not able to search it. Basically AIS does not seem to be supported on either of the maps. MarineTraffic.com uses the OpenStreetMap to display the positions of many thousands of ships around the world based on AIS input. Is anyone able to help? Thanks - Arthur ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
