[talk-au] ABC article - Google Maps in Eromanga

2021-04-14 Thread Charles Gregory
I notice this article:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-14/google-maps-outback-queensland-street-view-inaccurate/100065310

A good opportunity to make sure the town is 100% accurate (and detailed) in
OSM.

Assuming we can locate some appropriately licensed sources of course - it's
a bit of a trek to get there in person.

Regards,
Charles
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Re: [talk-au] Tagging Asset ID's (bridges as a priority)

2021-04-14 Thread Andrew Hughes
Hi All,

Thanks for all the replies, very helpful. The bridge name seems very clean
cut.

The asset id, requires more research but first I will have a look into
nominatim to see how it could influence how it can play a part in locating
assets by their ID.

Thanks again, got the job done!


On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 19:47, Phil Wyatt  wrote:

> Thanks Andrew, great answer!
>
>
> Cheers - Phil,
> On the road with his iPad
>
> On 14 Apr 2021, at 7:40 pm, Andrew Harvey 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Other replies already alluded to this, but the bridge is often mapped as
> an area like at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/604254012 with
> man_made=bridge. This allows you to tag all the attributes of the bridge
> distinct from the road way which crosses the bridge. eg. name=* and ref=*.
>
> On the main road way like https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/52981128 (but
> also in this case each of the cyleways that are part of the same bridge,
> the bridge reference would then be bridge:ref= as ref= would refer to the
> road reference not the bridge reference.
>
> Yes this results in duplicate information tagged on both the highway=* way
> and man_made=bridge area but it makes it easier for data consumers this
> way, otherwise you need to do spatial intersection tests.
>
> While smaller bridges won't have a man_made=bridge mapped out, over time
> as the map improves they would be added.
>
> It also helps determine, for example in the Merimbula Lake Bridge case, if
> there is one bridge that the road and cycleways share, or there is a road
> bridge and then two seperate bridges for the cycleways adjacent. Tagging
> man_made=bridge makes it clear (again through a spatial intersect) that
> there is just a single bridge, whereas without it, it would be unclear.
>
> I think the ref=* tag on man_made=bridge, and bridge:ref=* tag on
> highway=* is the way to go.
>
> Bob for your case I'd go with aeroway:ref=* for the airstrip reference,
> leaving ref=* for the road reference.
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 16:48, Andrew Hughes  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I've found an appropriate tag of bridge:name and have applied it to the
>> bridge:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Merimbula%20Lake%20Bridge
>>
>> But I also know this bridge has an asset id of "BID7" for the asset
>> owner. These asset id's are frequently referenced within the transport
>> industry and I believe they would be beneficial to OSM.However, I can't see
>> anyway of adding an ID to the bridge (or any other asset for that matter).
>>
>> Furthermore, being able to search by the asset id using nominatim would
>> also be highly desirable - just as searching for the bridge name works a
>> treat! So if there's any potential there it would be great.
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance Andrew
>>
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Re: [talk-au] Tagging Asset ID's (bridges as a priority)

2021-04-14 Thread Andrew Harvey
Other replies already alluded to this, but the bridge is often mapped as an
area like at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/604254012 with
man_made=bridge. This allows you to tag all the attributes of the bridge
distinct from the road way which crosses the bridge. eg. name=* and ref=*.

On the main road way like https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/52981128 (but
also in this case each of the cyleways that are part of the same bridge,
the bridge reference would then be bridge:ref= as ref= would refer to the
road reference not the bridge reference.

Yes this results in duplicate information tagged on both the highway=* way
and man_made=bridge area but it makes it easier for data consumers this
way, otherwise you need to do spatial intersection tests.

While smaller bridges won't have a man_made=bridge mapped out, over time as
the map improves they would be added.

It also helps determine, for example in the Merimbula Lake Bridge case, if
there is one bridge that the road and cycleways share, or there is a road
bridge and then two seperate bridges for the cycleways adjacent. Tagging
man_made=bridge makes it clear (again through a spatial intersect) that
there is just a single bridge, whereas without it, it would be unclear.

I think the ref=* tag on man_made=bridge, and bridge:ref=* tag on highway=*
is the way to go.

Bob for your case I'd go with aeroway:ref=* for the airstrip reference,
leaving ref=* for the road reference.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 16:48, Andrew Hughes  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I've found an appropriate tag of bridge:name and have applied it to the
> bridge:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Merimbula%20Lake%20Bridge
>
> But I also know this bridge has an asset id of "BID7" for the asset owner.
> These asset id's are frequently referenced within the transport industry
> and I believe they would be beneficial to OSM.However, I can't see anyway
> of adding an ID to the bridge (or any other asset for that matter).
>
> Furthermore, being able to search by the asset id using nominatim would
> also be highly desirable - just as searching for the bridge name works a
> treat! So if there's any potential there it would be great.
>
> Any advice would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance Andrew
>
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[talk-au] Tagging Asset ID's (bridges as a priority)

2021-04-14 Thread Andrew Hughes
Hi All,

I've found an appropriate tag of bridge:name and have applied it to the
bridge: https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=Merimbula%20Lake%20Bridge

But I also know this bridge has an asset id of "BID7" for the asset owner.
These asset id's are frequently referenced within the transport industry
and I believe they would be beneficial to OSM.However, I can't see anyway
of adding an ID to the bridge (or any other asset for that matter).

Furthermore, being able to search by the asset id using nominatim would
also be highly desirable - just as searching for the bridge name works a
treat! So if there's any potential there it would be great.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance Andrew
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