Re: [talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur
Hi Sebastian access=privateAccess is only with permission on an individual basis access=destinationTransit traffic forbidden access=permissive open to general traffic until such time as the owner revoke the permission My inclination is that if you are not sure, don't use the tag. Its OK to use less tags. It would be good to know which village you are referring to. In the case of Penguin Resort changeset#118193819 where I have just taken mapillary images, I think I would leave it at just highway=service and not use any of permissive, destination or private unless I had good evidence. Tony In using the tag access=permissive, how does one verify that access has not been revoked by the owner? In one of the changesets in question, the site clearly private property (as it is a retirement village) I would have thought that access=private would have been a better tag to use in lieu of destination. regards, Sebastian On 21 Mar 2022, at 1:44 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: ? On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 10:22, wrote: Then there are networks that are clearly signed indicating Transit traffic is forbidden. These are the only places I would use the access=destination tag. Have I got it right? Right enough to revert any tagging that does not conform? See also https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Local_Traffic_Only and the linked discussion thread. Those example changesets look questionable to me, but I don't have the local knowledge. Private property open to the public is more "access=permissive". access=destination really should only be for something signed as not allowing through traffic. I'd suggest adding a changeset comment to invite them here to discuss further, if you don't hear back then I think it's reasonable to revert. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] access=destination was [Ticket#2021093010000048] HighRouleur
In using the tag access=permissive, how does one verify that access has not been revoked by the owner? In one of the changesets in question, the site clearly private property (as it is a retirement village) I would have thought that access=private would have been a better tag to use in lieu of destination. regards, Sebastian > On 21 Mar 2022, at 1:44 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 10:22, wrote: >> Then there are networks that are clearly signed indicating Transit >> traffic is forbidden. These are the only places I would use the >> access=destination tag. >> >> Have I got it right? Right enough to revert any tagging that does not >> conform? > > See also > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Local_Traffic_Only > and the linked discussion thread. > > Those example changesets look questionable to me, but I don't have the local > knowledge. Private property open to the public is more "access=permissive". > access=destination really should only be for something signed as not allowing > through traffic. I'd suggest adding a changeset comment to invite them here > to discuss further, if you don't hear back then I think it's reasonable to > revert. > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] "Road names" around airports
Hi Sound like destinations, not road names. Is destination=* suitable? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination Tony Have spotted 2 notes concerning what names should be added to functional roads around airports (& other places would have similar). https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3100210, the OP is saying that the names (Arrival, Departure etc) are made up so shouldn't be there, while https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3064660, seems to be suggesting that they be named as Rental Car Return & so on! So, should they be named, or just tagged with access=no + taxi=yes etc? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] "Road names" around airports
Have spotted 2 notes concerning what names should be added to functional roads around airports (& other places would have similar). https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3100210, the OP is saying that the names (Arrival, Departure etc) are made up so shouldn't be there, while https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3064660, seems to be suggesting that they be named as Rental Car Return & so on! So, should they be named, or just tagged with access=no + taxi=yes etc? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au