Re: [talk-au] Well I bought an L1/L5 Mouse GPS

2022-06-22 Thread stevea
Again, a recommendation to deal with imagery offset "smears:"  start with the 
"street network" (grid, whatever) first.  That "lays down the meridians" as 
accurately as you know with minimal effort right down to the centerlines of 
multiple-lane tarmac.  The small (er) stuff like buildings, those follow 
"later."  Otherwise, you are pretty much chasing your tail.

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Re: [talk-au] Well I bought an L1/L5 Mouse GPS

2022-06-22 Thread stevea
On Jun 22, 2022, at 6:45 PM, Alex Sims  wrote:
> I’ve now got a relatively (<$100 + postage) Mouse GPS. It is amazingly 
> accurate. That’s the good news.
>  
> Now I can see a whole bunch of streets, buildings etc out by 1-5 meters as 
> *some* features were traced without correcting the image offset. Also found 
> my cheap GPS and an OSX machine are not a great combination. GPSD gets 
> confused and ends up with mojibake most times. Virtual serial port is fine in 
> screen, QGIS etc.
>  
> Still fun

I don't know the specific product, I'll look it up (and I'm in the States, 
maybe I can't get one, or only with difficulty, not worth shipping / taxes / 
duty / customs, whatever).

Image offset-derived "smears" in OSM's data can be a pain in the neck, 
especially as you get "multiple drifts" from a number of (imaging) sources.  
However, 1 to 5 meters, today (2022) isn't terrible.  And over years (yeah, 
sorry for those in a hurry), I have noticed "this gets better."  It's an 
ongoing effort.  Think of it like a slow motion countdown to zero, but like 
Zeno's Paradox, never really quite gets there.  Too, precision can be in the 
eye of the beholder.  1 to 5 meters?  Hey, you're not lost, perhaps a bit 
"smeary" but not lost.

JOSM does have a way to "imagery offset" differing layers, though I find it's 
only a temporary solution and try to keep these at 0,0.  My recommendation is 
to not try to do too much correcting all at once.  Chip away at it.  The data 
do get better.  Slowly, surely.
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[talk-au] Well I bought an L1/L5 Mouse GPS

2022-06-22 Thread Alex Sims
Hi,

I’ve now got a relatively (<$100 + postage) Mouse GPS. It is amazingly 
accurate. That’s the good news.

Now I can see a whole bunch of streets, buildings etc out by 1-5 meters as 
*some* features were traced without correcting the image offset. Also found my 
cheap GPS and an OSX machine are not a great combination. GPSD gets confused 
and ends up with mojibake most times. Virtual serial port is fine in screen, 
QGIS etc.

Still fun

Alex
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