Re: [talk-au] Adopting "AU" Prefix on Network tags

2022-08-19 Thread stevea
It makes a lot of sense.  In the states / USA, we (OSM as state and governments 
rather naturally cleave here for us) "split at state boundaries" all the time 
(as regards to highways and routes).  It is "sane in the long run" I believe is 
widely believed.

Things "come into better focus" for many, is how I might describe it, and I 
think is happening (now, again).  When/as there is "sense in our data" and 
people understand how to build it and use it, our data grow stronger.
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Re: [talk-au] Adopting "AU" Prefix on Network tags

2022-08-19 Thread Dian Ågesson



Hello Andrew, and all.

I've updated the draft guidelines to document these changes. I've 
included an example of how it would be tagged.


What are your thoughts?

Dian

On 2022-08-18 09:44, Dian Ågesson wrote:


Hi Andrew,

I really like what you're suggesting here. I'll adjust the draft I 
linked earlier to reflect what you've proposed below.


If everyone is happy with the draft we can integrate it into our 
tagging guidelines proper.


Dian

On 2022-08-18 08:51, Andrew Hughes wrote:

Hi Dian,

Working with the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator and having data that 
honours the jurisdiction geography (I.e. state/territory border) is 
invaluable to us.


I believe... Ways and State Route (relations) should split at the 
border. State routes typically form as members of the national route... 
therefore I would say ..

1. Ways are split or borders
2. Ways are members of state route relations  network=AU:QLD
3. State relations are members of a national relation (if they make up 
the national network) network=AU


I believe there is far less entropy in this convention as well.

Thoughts?

Cheers.

Andrew

On Fri, 12 Aug 2022, 2:38 pm Dian Ågesson,  wrote:

Excellent pick up Ben.

For routes that cross state borders, I would favour using AU:NAT (or 
AU:COM/AU:FED/AU:AUS, something that says "interstate or national).


I could also see an argument for creating a seperate relation for each 
state, with a national superrelation To be that seems like too much 
overhead.


Dian

On 2022-08-12 04:15, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 at 13:37, Ben Kelley  wrote:

I'm guessing more than one state has an A40.

& how would we work "Highway 1", with its myriad of alternative 
designations & names?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_1_(Australia)

Thanks

Graeme

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Re: [talk-au] Declared Hazardous Areas in Vic

2022-08-19 Thread Alex Sims
Hi

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions seems to suggest 
like you

bus:conditional = permit @ (Jun-Oct)

Looking in taginfo suggests something like this with a general condition and 
then specific exceptions:

bus:access = no
bus:conditional = yes @ (permit AND Jun-Oct)
bus:conditional = yes @ (Nov-May)

Alex
From: Brendan Barnes 
Date: Friday, 19 August 2022 at 8:31 pm
To: talk-au 
Subject: [talk-au] Declared Hazardous Areas in Vic
Hi all,

I've noticed these signs in Victorian Alpine areas 
https://kartaview.org/map/@-36.897592376139094,147.06169030221406,16z

And on a quick online seach came up with 
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/licences/licence-and-permit-types/authority-to-drive-in-hazardous-areas

Would a tag to represent such roads be expressed something like:

bus:conditional = permit @ Jun-Oct

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[talk-au] Declared Hazardous Areas in Vic

2022-08-19 Thread Brendan Barnes
Hi all,

I've noticed these signs in Victorian Alpine areas
https://kartaview.org/map/@-36.897592376139094,147.06169030221406,16z

And on a quick online seach came up with
https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/licences/licence-and-permit-types/authority-to-drive-in-hazardous-areas

Would a tag to represent such roads be expressed something like:

bus:conditional = permit @ Jun-Oct
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[talk-au] Research survey on bots and automated edits

2022-08-19 Thread Niels van Berkel
Dear members of the Australian OSM community,

We are a group of researchers from the Human-Centred Computing Group of Aalborg 
University, Denmark. The OpenStreetMap project provides an example of a highly 
collaborative and distributed community working towards a common goal. As such, 
this makes the OSM project a highly suitable place to study to better 
understand the needs of online collaboration.

In our current study, we are interested in the collaboration between human 
contributors and bots/automated edits, and what can be done to further improve 
this interaction. We realise this is a highly contentious topic within the OSM 
community, and we would therefore love to hear from a broad representation of 
OSM contributors.

We are running a short survey - which should take roughly five to ten minutes 
of your time. We'd greatly appreciate any input you can provide. No personal 
information will be collected, and we will share our insights with the OSM 
community. If you wish to enter the raffle for a $25 Amazon voucher, you can 
leave your email address at the end of the survey.

Our survey can be found here: 
https://csaau.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_8iUBOKYj8G6sLYy.

Best regards,

Niels
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