Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA
Hi, Comments from lunchtime * Someone in my walking group is a keen mapper and always correcting things * In Victoria there is great open data (data.vic.gov.au) so less need * Great contribution to the community * How do you run on no money and no staff? Alex From: Phil Wyatt Date: Friday, 26 August 2022 at 12:13 pm To: Alex Sims , 'talk-au OSM -' Subject: RE: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA Well done Alex, Events such as that are a great opportunity to chat to folks about opening up their data so we can have complete coverage. I notice that many of the Police Station points (especially remote ones) are missing in OSM but it also looks like some of their pins could also be inaccurate. Given that lots of government agencies are also ESRI clients they could also make them available as part of ‘Community Maps Data Sharing Program’ with a suitable licence and then they would become available in the RapID editor https://www.esri.com/arcgis-blog/products/arcgis-living-atlas/mapping/community-maps-data-sharing/ Cheers - Phil From: Alex Sims Sent: Friday, 26 August 2022 11:34 AM To: talk-au OSM - Subject: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA Hi, I’m at the EMSINA (Emergency Management Spatial Information Network Australia) PDP day as part of AFAC (Australasian Fire and Emergency Service Authorities Council) 2022 Conference in Adelaide and finding a few “OpenStreetMap used here”. Feedback from participants I’ve spoken to: * The price is right, free! * Good coverage of health facilities Uses of OpenStreetMap I’ve not noticed before, mainly background maps * Find a police station (SA Police) https://www.police.sa.gov.au/about-us/find-your-local-police-station (via ESRI) And oddly an attribution where OpenStreetMap is credited but its SA government mapping * Bus Stop location map https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/stops?id=16490 My own observation and I suppose the reason I’m here is there are plenty of users of our mapping but not much feedback from users as to what they want, which we are probably willing to map. Alex ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA
Well done Alex, Events such as that are a great opportunity to chat to folks about opening up their data so we can have complete coverage. I notice that many of the Police Station points (especially remote ones) are missing in OSM but it also looks like some of their pins could also be inaccurate. Given that lots of government agencies are also ESRI clients they could also make them available as part of 'Community Maps Data Sharing Program' with a suitable licence and then they would become available in the RapID editor https://www.esri.com/arcgis-blog/products/arcgis-living-atlas/mapping/commun ity-maps-data-sharing/ Cheers - Phil From: Alex Sims Sent: Friday, 26 August 2022 11:34 AM To: talk-au OSM - Subject: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA Hi, I'm at the EMSINA (Emergency Management Spatial Information Network Australia) PDP day as part of AFAC (Australasian Fire and Emergency Service Authorities Council) 2022 Conference in Adelaide and finding a few "OpenStreetMap used here". Feedback from participants I've spoken to: * The price is right, free! * Good coverage of health facilities Uses of OpenStreetMap I've not noticed before, mainly background maps * Find a police station (SA Police) https://www.police.sa.gov.au/about-us/find-your-local-police-station (via ESRI) And oddly an attribution where OpenStreetMap is credited but its SA government mapping * Bus Stop location map https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/stops?id=16490 My own observation and I suppose the reason I'm here is there are plenty of users of our mapping but not much feedback from users as to what they want, which we are probably willing to map. Alex ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA
One thing that I'd love feedback on if possible is street numbers, particularly for rural areas? Does anybody use them & are they of any use? Thanks Graeme On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 at 11:37, Alex Sims wrote: > Hi, > > > > I’m at the EMSINA (Emergency Management Spatial Information > Network Australia) PDP day as part of AFAC (Australasian Fire and > Emergency Service Authorities Council) 2022 Conference in Adelaide and > finding a few “OpenStreetMap used here”. > > > > Feedback from participants I’ve spoken to: > >- The price is right, free! >- Good coverage of health facilities > > > > Uses of OpenStreetMap I’ve not noticed before, mainly background maps > >- Find a police station (SA Police) >https://www.police.sa.gov.au/about-us/find-your-local-police-station >(via ESRI) > > > > And oddly an attribution where OpenStreetMap is credited but its SA > government mapping > >- Bus Stop location map https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/stops?id=16490 > > > > My own observation and I suppose the reason I’m here is there are plenty > of users of our mapping but not much feedback from users as to what they > want, which we are probably willing to map. > > > > Alex > > > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Parks Victoria - Volunteering Innovation Fund open till 3 October
Hi all, The Volunteering Innovation Fund is a key new initiative under the Victoria’s Great Outdoors Program, which seeks to get more Victorians, from all walks of life outdoors enjoying nature. Funding is available for a broad range of innovative volunteering projects on Victorian Crown land that benefit heritage and cultural values and improve the natural environment. Projects should: * invite more Victorians to volunteer in and for the environment * have the ability to leave a legacy (can be continued/expanded/extended/re-invigorated in the future); and * be a new method, idea, item, event or service. If anyone is interested in putting together a proposal involving OSM volunteers mapping Victorian crown land, or develop a new volunteer service which leverages OSM data, please let me know. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA
Great feedback Alex! Always great working with government on projects. It's a two-way street. If agencies have spatial datasets to share, they should consider publishing on https://data.sa.gov.au/ with an ODbL compatible licence, or CC-BY-4.0 with waiver. The more data they provide for common good, the more the OSM community can map with them. On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 at 11:37, Alex Sims wrote: > Hi, > > > > I’m at the EMSINA (Emergency Management Spatial Information > Network Australia) PDP day as part of AFAC (Australasian Fire and > Emergency Service Authorities Council) 2022 Conference in Adelaide and > finding a few “OpenStreetMap used here”. > > > > Feedback from participants I’ve spoken to: > >- The price is right, free! >- Good coverage of health facilities > > > > Uses of OpenStreetMap I’ve not noticed before, mainly background maps > >- Find a police station (SA Police) >https://www.police.sa.gov.au/about-us/find-your-local-police-station >(via ESRI) > > > > And oddly an attribution where OpenStreetMap is credited but its SA > government mapping > >- Bus Stop location map https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/stops?id=16490 > > > > My own observation and I suppose the reason I’m here is there are plenty > of users of our mapping but not much feedback from users as to what they > want, which we are probably willing to map. > > > > Alex > > > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Mapping surf breaks
On Thursday, 25 August 2022 15:44:30 AEST Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Earlier I mentioned about the Kirra Superbank that only occurs a "few" > times per year. While the rest of the year is perfectly acceptable, those > few times are exceptional! (Think rides over 1 km long! :-)) I am definitely no surfer, but what about tidal bores? Apparently Australia has some: https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/blogs/tim-the-yowie-man/ 2020/01/surfing-the-mysterious-tidal-bores-of-australia/ -- Simon Slater signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Usage of Openstreetmap at EMSINA
Hi, I’m at the EMSINA (Emergency Management Spatial Information Network Australia) PDP day as part of AFAC (Australasian Fire and Emergency Service Authorities Council) 2022 Conference in Adelaide and finding a few “OpenStreetMap used here”. Feedback from participants I’ve spoken to: * The price is right, free! * Good coverage of health facilities Uses of OpenStreetMap I’ve not noticed before, mainly background maps * Find a police station (SA Police) https://www.police.sa.gov.au/about-us/find-your-local-police-station (via ESRI) And oddly an attribution where OpenStreetMap is credited but its SA government mapping * Bus Stop location map https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/stops?id=16490 My own observation and I suppose the reason I’m here is there are plenty of users of our mapping but not much feedback from users as to what they want, which we are probably willing to map. Alex ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Mapping surf breaks
On Thu, 25 Aug 2022 at 17:34, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ssurfing_typical=* > > surfing_exceptional=* > Yep, that'd probably work. Another one I thought of is swell_period=xx seconds Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Mapping surf breaks
On 25/8/22 15:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2022 at 11:43, Josh Marshall wrote: I tasked the kid with drawing the ideal surf map, and he’s really stuck into it… and it’s given me more to think about how the features should be drawn. Please do share when ready, as I am also well & truly /not/ a surfer! (I'm actually a boatie so I'm / they're the enemy! :-)) I like the idea of separate tags too: - some may be more necessary than others - better than trying to cram them all into one - can be added to over time, rather than a formalised :conditional= Yep. Always feet. When surfers talk about wave size, it’s much like fishing aficionados talking about the size of their catch, if you know what I’m getting at. Perfectly! But “size” is variable, what would need to be tagged is “minimum swell size” for a break to be rideable… which is a more scientific measure and reported formally. Hmmm, wouldn't that then vary concerning the board? You often hear the news say "it'll only be a couple of feet / knee high (& does that option need mentioning?), so break out your small wave board & head on down" I found this article to be the most succinct and detached summary of conditions required for particular breaks: https://unravelsurftravel.com/understanding-waves/ Yep, good article, but one bit there made me think? " To surf the best waves possible you need to know how different swell directions impact upon a particular surf spot" How do we say that the ideal, best conditions are "this", but usual conditions are "that"? Earlier I mentioned about the Kirra Superbank that only occurs a "few" times per year. While the rest of the year is perfectly acceptable, those few times are exceptional! (Think rides over 1 km long! :-)) Can you think of any way of tagging normal v ideal? Ssurfing_typical=* surfing_exceptional=* ?? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
