Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2023-02-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 at 13:54, Andrew Hughes  wrote:

> Yes...
>
>
> https://vicroadsopendata-vicroadsmaps.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/ef496e07eae049a3bb94351bc496dd6a_0/explore?location=-36.518496%2C145.313781%2C7.55
>
> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/
>

Sorry, Andrew, but apparently not?

I asked that question on Discord just the other day about somewhere else
with that CC & got told No Way! :-(

https://discord.com/channels/413070382636072960/763192797775265864/1076347259324739635
& a couple following if you're on it?

I can copy the contents if needed?

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2023-02-20 Thread Andrew Hughes
Yes...

https://vicroadsopendata-vicroadsmaps.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/ef496e07eae049a3bb94351bc496dd6a_0/explore?location=-36.518496%2C145.313781%2C7.55

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/

--Andrew


On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 at 09:01, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

>
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 at 12:31, Andrew Hughes  wrote:
>
>> And each culvert has a unique asset/ref identification (example Victorian
>> Dept of Transport, Structure Number == SN2252)
>>
>>
> Sorry to be awkward, but do we have permission to use that data?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
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Re: [talk-au] NSW Bridal Track

2023-02-20 Thread Josh Marshall
Australian road tagging guidelines at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads
arguably
override the general OSM guidelines, and they read:

highway=track: "Service and access roads that aren't part of the general
road network. Generally not paved, often not public access for
vehicles."... in rural "Fire trails, forest drives, 4WD tracks, and similar
roads.

highway=unclassified is: "Minor roads that are neither tertiary or
residential roads. Not generally through routes."

Given that, I'd argue =track is the right option.

A tangent, but I'm rather happy that iD _*finally_* fixed their English
description for =track (it included "unmaintained" for a long time; many
were quite annoyed at the original change to include that)... and I can't
find any discussion about why they finally gave in and reverted it! Vested
interest, since it along with =path are likely my two most used, given I
map a lot of bush with fire trails and run/ride singletrack.


On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 at 09:23, cleary  wrote:

>
> The name should not constrain the classification of the highway  (e.g.
> Dowling Track, Ooodnadatta Track). And, as I've commented previously in
> other threads, the DCS NSW Base Map can be quite outdated.
>
> However, a quick look at a YouTube video suggests that the Bridle Track
> should still be tagged as 4WD only (it was signposted as such and probably
> still is). Wikipedia reports that part of the route is new, apparently a
> diversion around the landslide that blocked the old track at Monaghans
> Bluff. I'd prefer not to change the OSM tags etc until someone surveys the
> route.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2023, at 9:17 PM, Warin wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > This track is now continuous having been closed due to a rock fall and
> > road collapse at Monaghans Bluff.
> >
> >
> > Given the importance of the road and that it is not really a 'track' in
> > the OSM sense (Roads for mostly agricultural or forestry uses) ... and
> > that the DCS Base Map places it at least tertiary level I would think
> > that all of this 'track' be classified in OSM as 'unclassified'.
> >
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
>
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Re: [talk-au] NSW Bridal Track

2023-02-20 Thread cleary


The name should not constrain the classification of the highway  (e.g. Dowling 
Track, Ooodnadatta Track). And, as I've commented previously in other threads, 
the DCS NSW Base Map can be quite outdated. 

However, a quick look at a YouTube video suggests that the Bridle Track should 
still be tagged as 4WD only (it was signposted as such and probably still is). 
Wikipedia reports that part of the route is new, apparently a diversion around 
the landslide that blocked the old track at Monaghans Bluff. I'd prefer not to 
change the OSM tags etc until someone surveys the route.




On Mon, 20 Feb 2023, at 9:17 PM, Warin wrote:
> Hi
>
> This track is now continuous having been closed due to a rock fall and 
> road collapse at Monaghans Bluff.
>
>
> Given the importance of the road and that it is not really a 'track' in 
> the OSM sense (Roads for mostly agricultural or forestry uses) ... and 
> that the DCS Base Map places it at least tertiary level I would think 
> that all of this 'track' be classified in OSM as 'unclassified'.
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
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[talk-au] NSW Bridal Track

2023-02-20 Thread Warin

Hi

This track is now continuous having been closed due to a rock fall and 
road collapse at Monaghans Bluff.



Given the importance of the road and that it is not really a 'track' in 
the OSM sense (Roads for mostly agricultural or forestry uses) ... and 
that the DCS Base Map places it at least tertiary level I would think 
that all of this 'track' be classified in OSM as 'unclassified'.



Thoughts?


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