Re: [talk-au] 'Restrictive cartography'

2010-07-09 Thread Liz
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010, Ben Last wrote:
> As a slightly different tack, criminals are now using cheap GPS jammers
> when ripping off trucks with valuable loads to defeat the GPS-based
> tracking-and-reporting.  The side effects of a jammer can be considerable,
> including bringing down cellular phone systems.  And, of course, screwing
> up the GPS tracks of any innocent OSM mappers nearby...
I've seen them on sale from US when searching ebay and similar for gps loggers

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Re: [talk-au] 'Restrictive cartography'

2010-07-08 Thread Ben Last
As a slightly different tack, criminals are now using cheap GPS jammers when
ripping off trucks with valuable loads to defeat the GPS-based
tracking-and-reporting.  The side effects of a jammer can be considerable,
including bringing down cellular phone systems.  And, of course, screwing up
the GPS tracks of any innocent OSM mappers nearby...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8533157.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/feb/22/car-thieves-using-gps-jammers

Cheers
b

On 8 July 2010 21:28, John Smith  wrote:

> On 8 July 2010 23:05, Jim Croft  wrote:
> >
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727670.900-virtual-prisons-how-emaps-are-curtailing-our-freedom.html
>
>
> The only new thing in that article is the potential scale being hinted
> at, but this is merely an evolution of existing technology.
>
> As they point out, some people already have RFID transceivers
> installed in their cars for tolls, a few years ago cops in New York
> City lost their jobs because the company in charge of the tollway
> installed sensors along the length of the road way, not just at toll
> points so you could track where people went, and the cops in questions
> weren't where they should have been.
>
> The same company got subpoenaed by divorce lawyers to check up on
> cheating spouses.
>
> Same with GPS tracking technology, this stuff has been used for years
> to house arrest people in the US and also track sex offenders going
> too close to schools, but it was shown recently triggered alarms
> weren't acted upon, so no matter how well the technology is designed
> we can thank human complacency to limit the overall abuse. :)
>
> You also have various governments assuming that road usage can be
> tracked by GPS, this kind of system has been used in parts Europe for
> taxis for a while, the result is GPS signal is blocked or faked to
> abuse the system.
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Re: [talk-au] 'Restrictive cartography'

2010-07-08 Thread John Smith
On 8 July 2010 23:05, Jim Croft  wrote:
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727670.900-virtual-prisons-how-emaps-are-curtailing-our-freedom.html


The only new thing in that article is the potential scale being hinted
at, but this is merely an evolution of existing technology.

As they point out, some people already have RFID transceivers
installed in their cars for tolls, a few years ago cops in New York
City lost their jobs because the company in charge of the tollway
installed sensors along the length of the road way, not just at toll
points so you could track where people went, and the cops in questions
weren't where they should have been.

The same company got subpoenaed by divorce lawyers to check up on
cheating spouses.

Same with GPS tracking technology, this stuff has been used for years
to house arrest people in the US and also track sex offenders going
too close to schools, but it was shown recently triggered alarms
weren't acted upon, so no matter how well the technology is designed
we can thank human complacency to limit the overall abuse. :)

You also have various governments assuming that road usage can be
tracked by GPS, this kind of system has been used in parts Europe for
taxis for a while, the result is GPS signal is blocked or faked to
abuse the system.

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[talk-au] 'Restrictive cartography'

2010-07-08 Thread Jim Croft
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727670.900-virtual-prisons-how-emaps-are-curtailing-our-freedom.html

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