Re: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread b . schulz . 10
I'm starting as a maths teacher next year and will certainly be mentioning it 
to the geography teachers in passing ;). The hard bit will be relating it to 
the syllabus so it's not a waste of time.

Obviously it would be an excellent exercise for geography students to do, but 
unless the syllabus allows for first hand cartography a teacher would really 
need to twist some arms to justify using class time for it.

If anybody's got ideas on how to incorporate it into a maths lesson I'm all 
ears too.

Brent

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From: John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009 2:46 pm
Subject: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM
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 Tracing rivers and such on OSM gave me an idea for a possible 
 way to promote OSM, geography students.
 
 I mean what better way to teach kids about geography than doing 
 a little cartography :)
 
 
   
 
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Re: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread John Smith

--- On Thu, 9/7/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote:

 I'm starting as a maths teacher
 next year and will certainly be mentioning it to the
 geography teachers in passing ;). The hard bit will be
 relating it to the syllabus so it's not a waste of
 time.
 
 Obviously it would be an excellent exercise for geography
 students to do, but unless the syllabus allows for first
 hand cartography a teacher would really need to twist some
 arms to justify using class time for it.
 
 If anybody's got ideas on how to incorporate it into a
 maths lesson I'm all ears too.

I'll paste below a reply I received because I cross posted to the main talk 
list at the same time, along with my reply.

--- On Thu, 9/7/09, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote:

 Back when I was at School, If I could have done a GCSE or
 A-Level in
 Cartography I would have done. Its a much under taught
 subject.
 
 It either needs to be taught as a Subject in its own right
 or as Part
 of Technical Drawing, Its not that it can't be included
 as part of
 Geography its just there is more than enough material for a
 separate
 subject and its much ignored.

I was thinking about refining rivers and marking out local area stuff that 
normally doesn't appear on most maps, there virtually would be a lot of stuff 
that could be done in this area.

Then you come to your suggestion, technical drawing, and I was walking through 
a shopping centre today and that side of things came to mind where you normally 
can't get GPS signal but they could measure out the shop fronts using another 
method and extrapolating from known positions outside where you can get a good 
gps signal.

There is almost endless amounts of refinement and mapping that could be done, 
and would cross disciplines from geography to architecture to history even, 
since you can get copies of old maps and see how towns grew over time.


  

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Re: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread Liz
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote:
 I was thinking about refining rivers and marking out local area stuff that
 normally doesn't appear on most maps, there virtually would be a lot of
 stuff that could be done in this area.

 Then you come to your suggestion, technical drawing, and I was walking
 through a shopping centre today and that side of things came to mind where
 you normally can't get GPS signal but they could measure out the shop
 fronts using another method and extrapolating from known positions outside
 where you can get a good gps signal.

 There is almost endless amounts of refinement and mapping that could be
 done, and would cross disciplines from geography to architecture to history
 even, since you can get copies of old maps and see how towns grew over
 time.


Your problem John, is that you are confusing educating people with providing 
them with a School Certificate or whatever

Yes, it would be a great way to teach kids about their world, to look at it, 
to describe it, to measure it but how can we make this fit with the 
curriculum?


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Re: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread Sam Couter
b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote:
 If anybody's got ideas on how to incorporate it into a maths lesson I'm all 
 ears too.

My high school maths touched on surveying, which is all geometry and
trigonometry. Map your school, the nearby playing field or shops or
whatever and calculate boundary lengths or areas of various features.

For senior high school students, what about studying a bit of the maths
involved in GPS? Techniques used in triangulation and estimating error,
for example. You may want to include relativistic effects such as
frequency shifts and time corrections for your best students.
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Re: [talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-09 Thread Sam Couter
Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
 Your problem John, is that you are confusing educating people with 
 providing 
 them with a School Certificate or whatever

I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.
  -- Mark Twain

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[talk-au] A possible way to promote OSM

2009-07-08 Thread John Smith

Tracing rivers and such on OSM gave me an idea for a possible way to promote 
OSM, geography students.

I mean what better way to teach kids about geography than doing a little 
cartography :)


  

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