[talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
If we had an english-AU version of JOSM, we could have our own 'presets' file so we wouldn't have Baby Hatch as an amenity, and we could have some other useful things, including 4wd_only on the presets. I'm no great coder, it is xml, and I have just realised that this is an opportunity to have the tags we like in AU ready to use with our own definitions, in JOSM http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/TaggingPresets http://www.christeck.de/wp/2009/09/02/maintaining-josm-presets/ while an individual can maintain their own set of presets http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/2551 I think the real advantage would be in Australianising JOSM. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
2009/9/19 Liz : > If we had an english-AU version of JOSM, we could have our own 'presets' file > so we wouldn't have Baby Hatch as an amenity, and we could have some other > useful things, including 4wd_only on the presets. > > I'm no great coder, it is xml, and I have just realised that this is an > opportunity to have the tags we like in AU ready to use with our own > definitions, in JOSM xml isn't really code, GPX files are a type of xml, the big issue isn't putting together the xml file, it's working out what should be in it. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: > 2009/9/19 Liz : > > If we had an english-AU version of JOSM, we could have our own 'presets' > > file so we wouldn't have Baby Hatch as an amenity, and we could have some > > other useful things, including 4wd_only on the presets. > > > > I'm no great coder, it is xml, and I have just realised that this is an > > opportunity to have the tags we like in AU ready to use with our own > > definitions, in JOSM > > xml isn't really code, GPX files are a type of xml, the big issue > isn't putting together the xml file, it's working out what should be > in it. yes, so do we need some statistical analysis like tagwatch to determine which tags are in use? a wiki page to put forward edits? someone to sign up to maintain the list? -- There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. -- Wm. Shakespeare, "Hamlet" ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
2009/9/19 Elizabeth Dodd : > yes, so do we need some statistical analysis like tagwatch to determine which > tags are in use? > a wiki page to put forward edits? I'd start with existing wiki pages like the tagging guidelines for aussies. > someone to sign up to maintain the list? Someone may have to file a bug about it so it can be one of the default presets shown that people can pick from without needing to copy and paste a URL into JOSM. I could hack together a quick DB+front end so that almost anyone could maintain it, I just need to look up the structure I guess. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: > > yes, so do we need some statistical analysis like tagwatch to determine > > which tags are in use? > > a wiki page to put forward edits? > > I'd start with existing wiki pages like the tagging guidelines for aussies. > > > someone to sign up to maintain the list? > > Someone may have to file a bug about it so it can be one of the > default presets shown that people can pick from without needing to > copy and paste a URL into JOSM. > > I could hack together a quick DB+front end so that almost anyone could > maintain it, I just need to look up the structure I guess. the newest josm 2157 has a nested menu for the presets -- Are you a turtle? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
2009/9/19 Elizabeth Dodd : > the newest josm 2157 has a nested menu for the presets It looks sort of simple enough, here's one of the default preset xml files http://www.dstoecker.eu/josm/oneclick.xml It allows you to tag a bunch of things with just one click funnily enough :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: > 2009/9/19 Elizabeth Dodd : > > the newest josm 2157 has a nested menu for the presets > > It looks sort of simple enough, here's one of the default preset xml files > > http://www.dstoecker.eu/josm/oneclick.xml > > It allows you to tag a bunch of things with just one click funnily enough > :) I was also thinking that we could have the pharmacy dispensing as more likely than not_dispensing (I have only found one of those so far) and preset the carrier for the mail to Australia Post, the operator of the telephone to Telstra and other sensible defaults for us -- You feel a whole lot more like you do now than you did when you used to. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
Liz wrote: > so we wouldn't have Baby Hatch as an amenity WTF is a baby hatch?! Is it like a laundry chute, where babies go when they're dirty and you're finished with them? I'd like one of them thanks. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
2009/9/19 Sam Couter : > Liz wrote: >> so we wouldn't have Baby Hatch as an amenity > > WTF is a baby hatch?! Is it like a laundry chute, where babies go when > they're dirty and you're finished with them? I'd like one of them thanks. Basically, except there is no return chute to get them back... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: > 2009/9/19 Sam Couter : > > Liz wrote: > >> so we wouldn't have Baby Hatch as an amenity > > > > WTF is a baby hatch?! Is it like a laundry chute, where babies go when > > they're dirty and you're finished with them? I'd like one of them thanks. > > Basically, except there is no return chute to get them back... > > ___ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_hatch ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
Elizabeth Dodd writes: > > On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, John Smith wrote: > > 2009/9/19 Elizabeth Dodd : > > > the newest josm 2157 has a nested menu for the presets > > > > It looks sort of simple enough, here's one of the default preset xml files > > > > http://www.dstoecker.eu/josm/oneclick.xml > > > > It allows you to tag a bunch of things with just one click funnily enough > > :) > > I was also thinking that we could have the pharmacy dispensing as more likely > than not_dispensing (I have only found one of those so far) > and preset the carrier for the mail to Australia Post, the operator of the > telephone to Telstra and other sensible defaults for us Does anyone know if JOSM has any localisation features, as opposed to internationalisation abilities? Hopefully Aussie nomenclature can be put into a localisation file, so we don't have to be confused by UK speak (though we don't have it as bad as US and other countries - given our heritage). BTW, I used to add the operator=* key to postboxes, but then saw the note on Map Features to only add it if it is an alternate operator (DHL etc.), so by default it is the normal operator in the region (I presume). So I then removed all the operator tags I had added. I took that advice to apply to public phones as well (we do have some alternative operators here, but it's pretty rare). BlueMM ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
2009/9/23 BlueMM : > Does anyone know if JOSM has any localisation features, as opposed to > internationalisation abilities? Hopefully Aussie nomenclature can be put into > a > localisation file, so we don't have to be confused by UK speak (though we > don't > have it as bad as US and other countries - given our heritage). Even so, our language and culture is still unique and before I started mapping I never knew what a ford was, other than a car company and a character from novels by Douglas Adams. > BTW, I used to add the operator=* key to postboxes, but then saw the note on > Map > Features to only add it if it is an alternate operator (DHL etc.), so by > default > it is the normal operator in the region (I presume). So I then removed all the > operator tags I had added. I took that advice to apply to public phones as > well > (we do have some alternative operators here, but it's pretty rare). Yes, unlike the US it's actually possible here to make long distance calls on pay phones, I was a bit shocked that you can't in the US, at least the pay phones I've tried in the past. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australian version of JOSM
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, BlueMM wrote: > Does anyone know if JOSM has any localisation features, as opposed to > internationalisation abilities? Hopefully Aussie nomenclature can be put > into a localisation file, https://translations.launchpad.net/josm/trunk/+pots/keys there are 3557 tags to go out of 3712 and one soul has started on the translations ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
