Re: [talk-au] Discussion E: how to find faults in maps

2019-09-28 Thread David Wales
An example from the page Warin linked which may interest you is the
[Bicycle Tags map][1].
[1]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle_tags_map)

For example, [here is Canberra][2] with all 'highway=cycleway' and
'bicycle=yes' tagged ways highlighted:
[2]:
http://mijndev.openstreetmap.nl/~ligfietser/fiets/index.html?map=cycleways=13=-35.32063=149.12057=B00TFT

Another link from the page Warin mentioned is [Osmose][3].
[3]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmose

Here is [an example][4] with just cycleway errors flagged in Canberra:
[4]:
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/#zoom=13=-35.2845=149.122==1%2C2%2C3=cycleway=

If you have some knowledge of a tag that should be applied, you can use
JOSM filters to find which ways are missing the tag. For example, I use
filters to find roads which are missing speed limits.

Here are an [introduction][5] and [documentation][6] for JOSM filters.
[5]: https://blog.mapbox.com/using-filters-in-josm-99a7415f6235
[6]: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Dialog/Filter

An example filter is ('|' means inclusive 'OR'):

    highway=cycleway | bicycle=yes | bicycle=designated
   
By default, filters hide the selected tags. I have selected the 'invert'
option to hide everything except the selected tags.

See an [example of the above filter][7] here.
[7]: https://imgur.com/VNmUDWN

Regards,
David Wales

On 29/9/19 8:50 am, Warin wrote:
> On 29/09/19 07:30, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au wrote:
>>
>> I welcome your comments.
>>
>
> 1) This is not Australian specific.
> 2) The topic is an FAQ
> 3) Before you post .. do some research
>
> Read and use the tools from here 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_assurance
>
> There are at least 264 fixmes in the ACT, that is more than 'dozens'
> you state.
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Re: [talk-au] Discussion E: how to find faults in maps

2019-09-28 Thread Warin

On 29/09/19 07:30, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au wrote:


I welcome your comments.



1) This is not Australian specific.
2) The topic is an FAQ
3) Before you post .. do some research

Read and use the tools from here 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_assurance


There are at least 264 fixmes in the ACT, that is more than 'dozens' you 
state.



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[talk-au] Discussion E: how to find faults in maps

2019-09-28 Thread Herbert.Remi via Talk-au
# Discussion E: how to find faults in maps

## The Issue

The ACT has 3000km of roads, 2000km of footpaths, and 329 km of shared bike 
paths, 1000s of km of formed trails (2/3 the state is rideable), a few 100kms 
of mountain biking "single-track" and a few dozen active planners at best. How 
do you find errors in this network?

It is looking for a needle in the haystack. Here are some options I have tried, 
and I would be grateful for further suggestions. Going there or comparing with 
the satellite photos in OSM are two options that I will not mention further 
here as that is the way they are a map in the first place. Unfortunately, it is 
not enough. The ACT maps require quality and consistency improvements.

FIXME has not been all that helpful, with errors in the ACT in the dozens and 
not 100s or 1000s. FIXME is just the errors we know of not the ones we don’t.

QUESTION

What are the approaches you have used to find errors, particularly with tagging?

What follows are options that I have helped, that you might like to comment on.

## 1. Detection algorithms

Not surprising somebody has written code to do this – an OSM proofing tool. It 
is good for some things and completely misses others. It allows you to inspect 
OSM in different ways: geometry, tagging, places, highway, areas, coastline, 
routing, addresses, water, public transport stops and public transport routes. 
It fishes out all the FIXME tags too. The service is provided by Geofabrik. The 
website is in English as well. Take a look at it here.

http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/

## 2. A different perspective (alternate rendering)

The testing of a map helps. Try using the OSM data and see if it is fit for 
purpose. We are familiar with the Mapnik rendering (default). It is a 
general-purpose map. A map for riding bikes, hiking or mountain biking would 
look different. We can easily forget every Mapnik cherry picks OSM for 
information. Errors that don’t show on the Mapnik render may show on a bike 
map. Similar information may be shown differently or keys/tags displayed that 
are not visible on the Mapnik.

## Interesting render options

To make things challenging, there is more than one type of cyclist. I would 
like to distinguish between the type of riding mountain bikes do and that of 
other cyclists. Mountain bikes are built for unpaved and rough surfaces. Other 
bikes are only suitable for paved and relatively smooth surfaces. I will 
categorise these city bikes (just a label, please don't take offence). Mountain 
bikers and city bikers have different needs and their maps should reflect that.

The following websites have English language pages too. Look for the British 
flag if you end up in the wrong spot.

### CyclOSM for city bikes

CyclOSM is cyclist map and best suited for reviewing the OSM data for city 
bikes but show unpaved tracks and paths too. There are better maps for mountain 
biking though. This map can show inconsistent tagging of paths and relations. 
The tagging issues are raised in the post *Discussion D: mapping ACT for 
cyclists – complying with ACT law*.

https://www.cyclosm.org/#map=14/-35.2853/149.1188/cyclosm

This map is updated continually (live) from OSM and you can see editing changes 
just minutes after you save them. I have run this map and the ID editor in 
split-screen so that I could compare the two.

### openMTBmap for mountain bikes

If you ride a mountain bike you will like openMTBmap. This map is rendered for 
the off-road rider and shows the condition of tracks, permissions and other 
useful features (check website for details). Unfortunately, there is no live 
view of these maps, but you can download them for free and view them with 
BaseCamp from Garmin. If you like the map you can even save it on your Garman 
device and take it with you. Turn-by-turn navigation on a mountain bike, no 
problem! Maps are updated weekly. Openmtbmap is rendered for Garmin outdoor 
devices and looks a bit weird in HD.

https://openmtbmap.org/

I welcome your comments.

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