[talk-au] How to label ill-defined places?
Hi again everyone, hope you’re all enjoying Easter. A simple newbie question... How do you label localities that have no precise boundaries? I’m working on part of the Murray River and adding locality names from Vic Gov data. Many can be placed on mapped features (e.g. campsites and beaches) but lots cannot. The most common examples are ‘bends’ and ‘points’, such as Horseshoe Bend, Hideaway Bend, Cray Point, Killers Point, etc. These areas have no mapped boundaries. Should these be added by placing a node / point in the appropriate place and labelled it as follows, or is there a better way? Place:locality Name: Killers Point Source geometry: Source name: xxx Thanks again, and thanks too to Warin for answering my earlier question. Best wishes Ian ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] How to label ill-defined places?
Hi Ian and belated welcome aboard. Your tagging logic looks great, better than most. Whilst most prefer natural features to not use place:locality, I believe that this is the perfect fit where the name is used colloquially for that area of land surrounding the river. Perhaps consider when it slightly confusing to use note: location approximate or, note: location not clearly defined (or similar) so the next mapper who may have more local knowledge knows that the node can be moved or improved. All the best with the Murray river, a nice short water way to get start off with ;) Ewen On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 12:57, Little Maps wrote: > Hi again everyone, hope you’re all enjoying Easter. A simple newbie > question... > > How do you label localities that have no precise boundaries? I’m working > on part of the Murray River and adding locality names from Vic Gov data. > Many can be placed on mapped features (e.g. campsites and beaches) but lots > cannot. > > The most common examples are ‘bends’ and ‘points’, such as Horseshoe Bend, > Hideaway Bend, Cray Point, Killers Point, etc. These areas have no mapped > boundaries. Should these be added by placing a node / point in the > appropriate place and labelled it as follows, or is there a better way? > > Place:locality > Name: Killers Point > Source geometry: > Source name: xxx > > Thanks again, and thanks too to Warin for answering my earlier question. > > Best wishes Ian > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Warm Regards Ewen Hill Internet Development Australia ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] How to label ill-defined places?
Generally "place=locality" is appropriate for named places that are unpopulated. (See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place} On Mon, 13 Apr 2020, at 2:56 AM, Little Maps wrote: > Hi again everyone, hope you’re all enjoying Easter. A simple newbie > question... > > How do you label localities that have no precise boundaries? I’m > working on part of the Murray River and adding locality names from Vic > Gov data. Many can be placed on mapped features (e.g. campsites and > beaches) but lots cannot. > > The most common examples are ‘bends’ and ‘points’, such as Horseshoe > Bend, Hideaway Bend, Cray Point, Killers Point, etc. These areas have > no mapped boundaries. Should these be added by placing a node / point > in the appropriate place and labelled it as follows, or is there a > better way? > > Place:locality > Name: Killers Point > Source geometry: > Source name: xxx > > Thanks again, and thanks too to Warin for answering my earlier question. > > Best wishes Ian > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] How to label ill-defined places?
And I should have added, that it is usually just a node unless you have specified boundaries.. On Mon, 13 Apr 2020, at 2:56 AM, Little Maps wrote: > Hi again everyone, hope you’re all enjoying Easter. A simple newbie > question... > > How do you label localities that have no precise boundaries? I’m > working on part of the Murray River and adding locality names from Vic > Gov data. Many can be placed on mapped features (e.g. campsites and > beaches) but lots cannot. > > The most common examples are ‘bends’ and ‘points’, such as Horseshoe > Bend, Hideaway Bend, Cray Point, Killers Point, etc. These areas have > no mapped boundaries. Should these be added by placing a node / point > in the appropriate place and labelled it as follows, or is there a > better way? > > Place:locality > Name: Killers Point > Source geometry: > Source name: xxx > > Thanks again, and thanks too to Warin for answering my earlier question. > > Best wishes Ian > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] How to label ill-defined places?
Thanks very much Ewen and Michael, I’ll use those tags where they, and nothing much else, seems to fit best. Ewen, I’ve been admiring your amazing land use mapping around Rutherglen and Mildura! Best wishes Ian > On 13 Apr 2020, at 12:56 pm, Little Maps wrote: > > Hi again everyone, hope you’re all enjoying Easter. A simple newbie > question... > > How do you label localities that have no precise boundaries? I’m working on > part of the Murray River and adding locality names from Vic Gov data. Many > can be placed on mapped features (e.g. campsites and beaches) but lots cannot. > > The most common examples are ‘bends’ and ‘points’, such as Horseshoe Bend, > Hideaway Bend, Cray Point, Killers Point, etc. These areas have no mapped > boundaries. Should these be added by placing a node / point in the > appropriate place and labelled it as follows, or is there a better way? > > Place:locality > Name: Killers Point > Source geometry: > Source name: xxx > > Thanks again, and thanks too to Warin for answering my earlier question. > > Best wishes Ian > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] How to label ill-defined places?
In addition to what others have mentioned here, you should also distinguish if it's a "place" or if it's a natural feature and tag accordingly. For example, Potts Point the "point" (natural=cape) as in the land that sticks out into the water body is mapped like https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3956292591 and Potts Point the locality (place=suburb) that the area is known as is mapped like https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1647971432 Regarding Bends and Reaches https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reach_(geography) we don't have a widespread accepted way to map these, so it's okay to use place=locality as a standin until we do (in fact points were originally mapped this way until we agreed upon natural=cape). On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 12:57, Little Maps wrote: > Hi again everyone, hope you’re all enjoying Easter. A simple newbie > question... > > How do you label localities that have no precise boundaries? I’m working > on part of the Murray River and adding locality names from Vic Gov data. > Many can be placed on mapped features (e.g. campsites and beaches) but lots > cannot. > > The most common examples are ‘bends’ and ‘points’, such as Horseshoe Bend, > Hideaway Bend, Cray Point, Killers Point, etc. These areas have no mapped > boundaries. Should these be added by placing a node / point in the > appropriate place and labelled it as follows, or is there a better way? > > Place:locality > Name: Killers Point > Source geometry: > Source name: xxx > > Thanks again, and thanks too to Warin for answering my earlier question. > > Best wishes Ian > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
