Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Jason, I'll look into this Thanks, - Serge On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi DWG (CC talk-au list), Below is a segment of a discussion on talk-au regarding edits made by http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/robbief14. He is unresponsive to messages sent via OSM and continues to add and remove content that has been established as incorrect. I am notifying you as users within the talk-au discussion have established some actions within his edits to be vandalism (with some rollbacks by users being re-added back in by this user). If you have any questions please contact the guys on the list and I apologise if you have been notified separately to my comms (no-one was nominated or volunteered so I just sent this message). Cheers, Jason On 16 February 2014 08:31, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: No, he seems to be putting back his fake roads again. Just as I finished fixing some of them from last time... Has anyone managed to contact him (I noticed several people in the talk-GB list were trying to) and is it time to get someone like the Data Working Group involved to deal with him? At the least, I believe every one of his edits in Australia is bogus. I've checked the following: He's reinstated the Shepparton bypass again. I can say with certainty that that road doesn't exist except in the road authorities future plans. There is also a Pacific Highway tunnel that's appeared in Sydney that I believe is still in the planning phase. The Adelaide northern connector is also in the planning phase (still not funded according to their website) and sure enough, he's made it complete. Look at this minor example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/261508781#map=19/-37.56324/143.93172 There is no justification for adding those ramps, which would be dangerous if they were actually built like that. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: There seem to be a lot of deletions in this and subsequent changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20555081 Are they valid? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Jason, My apologies for not getting back to you sooner. We went ahead and gave the user a temporary block two days ago. It doesn't look like he's bothered to log in since. You mentioned that you and other have rolled back some of his edits. Do you want to continue to do so (since you seem to be coordinating) or should I? - Serge On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi DWG (CC talk-au list), Below is a segment of a discussion on talk-au regarding edits made by http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/robbief14. He is unresponsive to messages sent via OSM and continues to add and remove content that has been established as incorrect. I am notifying you as users within the talk-au discussion have established some actions within his edits to be vandalism (with some rollbacks by users being re-added back in by this user). If you have any questions please contact the guys on the list and I apologise if you have been notified separately to my comms (no-one was nominated or volunteered so I just sent this message). Cheers, Jason On 16 February 2014 08:31, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: No, he seems to be putting back his fake roads again. Just as I finished fixing some of them from last time... Has anyone managed to contact him (I noticed several people in the talk-GB list were trying to) and is it time to get someone like the Data Working Group involved to deal with him? At the least, I believe every one of his edits in Australia is bogus. I've checked the following: He's reinstated the Shepparton bypass again. I can say with certainty that that road doesn't exist except in the road authorities future plans. There is also a Pacific Highway tunnel that's appeared in Sydney that I believe is still in the planning phase. The Adelaide northern connector is also in the planning phase (still not funded according to their website) and sure enough, he's made it complete. Look at this minor example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/261508781#map=19/-37.56324/143.93172 There is no justification for adding those ramps, which would be dangerous if they were actually built like that. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: There seem to be a lot of deletions in this and subsequent changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20555081 Are they valid? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
On 19 Feb 2014, at 6:15 pm, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: Quoting Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com: Sorry for the double post / email, This [1] looks like the reversion has been done for AU. If a mrpulley is on the talk-au list could you update Serge and talk-au? [1]: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20634749 Cheers, Jason That would be me. Over the last cople of days I have gone through robbief14's changesets and reverted several of them (some had already been reverted, so I've left those alone, also I've left most of the UK ones alone as some of these edits have been fixed (not sure if they was a full reversion or not)). I've got a bit of tidying up to do once I get home from work tonight (e.g. the Hornsby end of the Pacific Motorway now has duplicate ways with different maxspeeds, as robbief14 had merged some ways and changed some maxspeeds). I’ve finished my tidying up - hopefully everything’s been reverted. The maxspeeds at the southern end of the Pacific Motorway will need to be checked by someone (as it may change maxspeed near where it goes under the Pacific Highway). (I won’t be near there for some time.) Any volunteers? Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Sorry for the double post / email, This [1] looks like the reversion has been done for AU. If a mrpulley is on the talk-au list could you update Serge and talk-au? [1]: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20634749 Cheers, Jason On 19 February 2014 11:12, Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Serge, We spotted the user block the other day and I've seen some roll-back activity in (this) talk-au thread but it isn't a coordinated response as individuals (myself not included) are taking ownership of areas they are familiar with. On that basis it would be great if you had the means to complete a more comprehensive roll-back of this user's edits. As I understand it (from reading this thread) pretty much everything is incorrect and given the GB and AU coverage it seems like a complete roll-back would be an appropriate response. Of course if that is an incorrect assertion I expect others will make it known to you and the DWG. I'm happy to help with that process too as my sum total experience of reverting changesets = 1 so I'm all for upskilling in this area. Cheers, Jason On 19 February 2014 00:52, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, My apologies for not getting back to you sooner. We went ahead and gave the user a temporary block two days ago. It doesn't look like he's bothered to log in since. You mentioned that you and other have rolled back some of his edits. Do you want to continue to do so (since you seem to be coordinating) or should I? - Serge ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Quoting Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com: Sorry for the double post / email, This [1] looks like the reversion has been done for AU. If a mrpulley is on the talk-au list could you update Serge and talk-au? [1]: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20634749 Cheers, Jason That would be me. Over the last cople of days I have gone through robbief14's changesets and reverted several of them (some had already been reverted, so I've left those alone, also I've left most of the UK ones alone as some of these edits have been fixed (not sure if they was a full reversion or not)). I've got a bit of tidying up to do once I get home from work tonight (e.g. the Hornsby end of the Pacific Motorway now has duplicate ways with different maxspeeds, as robbief14 had merged some ways and changed some maxspeeds). Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Thanks Jason for contacting DWG on this. It seems he's been issued with a warning, we'll see if it has any impact. Today the Western highway has been upgraded again after it had been reverted to normal. I notice that supposedly we have tunnelled around Beaufort now, As a Victorian taxpayer i'd like to know how we can afford these tunnels as long as the East-West link! :-p One positive in this, it's got me to start using JOSM a little. I might just change over from Potlatch 2 yet.. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi DWG (CC talk-au list), Below is a segment of a discussion on talk-au regarding edits made by http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/robbief14. He is unresponsive to messages sent via OSM and continues to add and remove content that has been established as incorrect. I am notifying you as users within the talk-au discussion have established some actions within his edits to be vandalism (with some rollbacks by users being re-added back in by this user). If you have any questions please contact the guys on the list and I apologise if you have been notified separately to my comms (no-one was nominated or volunteered so I just sent this message). Cheers, Jason On 16 February 2014 08:31, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: No, he seems to be putting back his fake roads again. Just as I finished fixing some of them from last time... Has anyone managed to contact him (I noticed several people in the talk-GB list were trying to) and is it time to get someone like the Data Working Group involved to deal with him? At the least, I believe every one of his edits in Australia is bogus. I've checked the following: He's reinstated the Shepparton bypass again. I can say with certainty that that road doesn't exist except in the road authorities future plans. There is also a Pacific Highway tunnel that's appeared in Sydney that I believe is still in the planning phase. The Adelaide northern connector is also in the planning phase (still not funded according to their website) and sure enough, he's made it complete. Look at this minor example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/261508781#map=19/-37.56324/143.93172 There is no justification for adding those ramps, which would be dangerous if they were actually built like that. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: There seem to be a lot of deletions in this and subsequent changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20555081 Are they valid? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
It still leaves correction of errors up to the community I'm afraid and if he ignores that message in the user block DWG will need to be notified again to get that account dealt with more permanently. Good luck guys. Cheers, Jason On 17 Feb 2014 07:41, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jason for contacting DWG on this. It seems he's been issued with a warning, we'll see if it has any impact. Today the Western highway has been upgraded again after it had been reverted to normal. I notice that supposedly we have tunnelled around Beaufort now, As a Victorian taxpayer i'd like to know how we can afford these tunnels as long as the East-West link! :-p One positive in this, it's got me to start using JOSM a little. I might just change over from Potlatch 2 yet.. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi DWG (CC talk-au list), Below is a segment of a discussion on talk-au regarding edits made by http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/robbief14. He is unresponsive to messages sent via OSM and continues to add and remove content that has been established as incorrect. I am notifying you as users within the talk-au discussion have established some actions within his edits to be vandalism (with some rollbacks by users being re-added back in by this user). If you have any questions please contact the guys on the list and I apologise if you have been notified separately to my comms (no-one was nominated or volunteered so I just sent this message). Cheers, Jason On 16 February 2014 08:31, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: No, he seems to be putting back his fake roads again. Just as I finished fixing some of them from last time... Has anyone managed to contact him (I noticed several people in the talk-GB list were trying to) and is it time to get someone like the Data Working Group involved to deal with him? At the least, I believe every one of his edits in Australia is bogus. I've checked the following: He's reinstated the Shepparton bypass again. I can say with certainty that that road doesn't exist except in the road authorities future plans. There is also a Pacific Highway tunnel that's appeared in Sydney that I believe is still in the planning phase. The Adelaide northern connector is also in the planning phase (still not funded according to their website) and sure enough, he's made it complete. Look at this minor example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/261508781#map=19/-37.56324/143.93172 There is no justification for adding those ramps, which would be dangerous if they were actually built like that. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: There seem to be a lot of deletions in this and subsequent changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20555081 Are they valid? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
If DWG has put a block then he can not edit until responding to it to the DWG. That's not to say he can not make another user name. Cheers Ross On 17/02/14 09:27, Jason Ward wrote: It still leaves correction of errors up to the community I'm afraid and if he ignores that message in the user block DWG will need to be notified again to get that account dealt with more permanently. Good luck guys. Cheers, Jason On 17 Feb 2014 07:41, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com mailto:lker...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jason for contacting DWG on this. It seems he's been issued with a warning, we'll see if it has any impact. Today the Western highway has been upgraded again after it had been reverted to normal. I notice that supposedly we have tunnelled around Beaufort now, As a Victorian taxpayer i'd like to know how we can afford these tunnels as long as the East-West link! :-p One positive in this, it's got me to start using JOSM a little. I might just change over from Potlatch 2 yet.. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com mailto:jasonjwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi DWG (CC talk-au list), Below is a segment of a discussion on talk-au regarding edits made by http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/robbief14. He is unresponsive to messages sent via OSM and continues to add and remove content that has been established as incorrect. I am notifying you as users within the talk-au discussion have established some actions within his edits to be vandalism (with some rollbacks by users being re-added back in by this user). If you have any questions please contact the guys on the list and I apologise if you have been notified separately to my comms (no-one was nominated or volunteered so I just sent this message). Cheers, Jason On 16 February 2014 08:31, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com mailto:lker...@gmail.com wrote: No, he seems to be putting back his fake roads again. Just as I finished fixing some of them from last time... Has anyone managed to contact him (I noticed several people in the talk-GB list were trying to) and is it time to get someone like the Data Working Group involved to deal with him? At the least, I believe every one of his edits in Australia is bogus. I've checked the following: He's reinstated the Shepparton bypass again. I can say with certainty that that road doesn't exist except in the road authorities future plans. There is also a Pacific Highway tunnel that's appeared in Sydney that I believe is still in the planning phase. The Adelaide northern connector is also in the planning phase (still not funded according to their website) and sure enough, he's made it complete. Look at this minor example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/261508781#map=19/-37.56324/143.93172 There is no justification for adding those ramps, which would be dangerous if they were actually built like that. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: There seem to be a lot of deletions in this and subsequent changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/__changeset/20555081 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20555081 Are they valid? Cheers, Andy _ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.__org/listinfo/talk-au https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
No, he seems to be putting back his fake roads again. Just as I finished fixing some of them from last time... Has anyone managed to contact him (I noticed several people in the talk-GB list were trying to) and is it time to get someone like the Data Working Group involved to deal with him? At the least, I believe every one of his edits in Australia is bogus. I've checked the following: He's reinstated the Shepparton bypass again. I can say with certainty that that road doesn't exist except in the road authorities future plans. There is also a Pacific Highway tunnel that's appeared in Sydney that I believe is still in the planning phase. The Adelaide northern connector is also in the planning phase (still not funded according to their website) and sure enough, he's made it complete. Look at this minor example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/261508781#map=19/-37.56324/143.93172 There is no justification for adding those ramps, which would be dangerous if they were actually built like that. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.ukwrote: There seem to be a lot of deletions in this and subsequent changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20555081 Are they valid? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Some don't read their email How about marking the things he is adding - under construction - so they don't apear on maps Nameing them Reiff14 READ YOUR EMAIL! Adding Note with the same as name... Note I've not used his actual 'name' .. but I'd think that may get through? There is a twitter account with that name ... and a mapmy person with the same name too... On 16/02/2014 9:31 AM, Leon Kernan wrote: No, he seems to be putting back his fake roads again. Just as I finished fixing some of them from last time... Has anyone managed to contact him (I noticed several people in the talk-GB list were trying to) and is it time to get someone like the Data Working Group involved to deal with him? At the least, I believe every one of his edits in Australia is bogus. I've checked the following: He's reinstated the Shepparton bypass again. I can say with certainty that that road doesn't exist except in the road authorities future plans. There is also a Pacific Highway tunnel that's appeared in Sydney that I believe is still in the planning phase. The Adelaide northern connector is also in the planning phase (still not funded according to their website) and sure enough, he's made it complete. Look at this minor example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/261508781#map=19/-37.56324/143.93172 There is no justification for adding those ramps, which would be dangerous if they were actually built like that. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: There seem to be a lot of deletions in this and subsequent changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20555081 Are they valid? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Problem is that some of these were tagged under construction where appropriate. He's just changing them to open and sometimes adding his own embellishments. On Sunday, February 16, 2014, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Some don't read their email How about marking the things he is adding - under construction - so they don't apear on maps Nameing them Reiff14 READ YOUR EMAIL! Adding Note with the same as name... Note I've not used his actual 'name' .. but I'd think that may get through? There is a twitter account with that name ... and a mapmy person with the same name too... On 16/02/2014 9:31 AM, Leon Kernan wrote: No, he seems to be putting back his fake roads again. Just as I finished fixing some of them from last time... Has anyone managed to contact him (I noticed several people in the talk-GB list were trying to) and is it time to get someone like the Data Working Group involved to deal with him? At the least, I believe every one of his edits in Australia is bogus. I've checked the following: He's reinstated the Shepparton bypass again. I can say with certainty that that road doesn't exist except in the road authorities future plans. There is also a Pacific Highway tunnel that's appeared in Sydney that I believe is still in the planning phase. The Adelaide northern connector is also in the planning phase (still not funded according to their website) and sure enough, he's made it complete. Look at this minor example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/261508781#map=19/-37.56324/143.93172 There is no justification for adding those ramps, which would be dangerous if they were actually built like that. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.ukjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk'); wrote: There seem to be a lot of deletions in this and subsequent changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20555081 Are they valid? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.orgjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Talk-au@openstreetmap.org'); https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing listtalk...@openstreetmap.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Talk-au@openstreetmap.org');https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Contact the DWG, get them to put a block on this user. Then you can do something about the edits. This is similar to previous vandalism in the Perth area by the likes of user Brendan_Cherry Cheers Ross On 16/02/14 13:23, Leon Kernan wrote: Problem is that some of these were tagged under construction where appropriate. He's just changing them to open and sometimes adding his own embellishments. On Sunday, February 16, 2014, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Some don't read their email How about marking the things he is adding - under construction - so they don't apear on maps Nameing them Reiff14 READ YOUR EMAIL! Adding Note with the same as name... Note I've not used his actual 'name' .. but I'd think that may get through? There is a twitter account with that name ... and a mapmy person with the same name too... On 16/02/2014 9:31 AM, Leon Kernan wrote: No, he seems to be putting back his fake roads again. Just as I finished fixing some of them from last time... Has anyone managed to contact him (I noticed several people in the talk-GB list were trying to) and is it time to get someone like the Data Working Group involved to deal with him? At the least, I believe every one of his edits in Australia is bogus. I've checked the following: He's reinstated the Shepparton bypass again. I can say with certainty that that road doesn't exist except in the road authorities future plans. There is also a Pacific Highway tunnel that's appeared in Sydney that I believe is still in the planning phase. The Adelaide northern connector is also in the planning phase (still not funded according to their website) and sure enough, he's made it complete. Look at this minor example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/261508781#map=19/-37.56324/143.93172 There is no justification for adding those ramps, which would be dangerous if they were actually built like that. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk'); wrote: There seem to be a lot of deletions in this and subsequent changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20555081 Are they valid? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Talk-au@openstreetmap.org'); https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Talk-au@openstreetmap.org'); https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
If the DWG does not respond then try contacting Frederik Ramm at; frederik at remote dot org He is usually very helpful with instances of vandalism. Cheers Ross On 16/02/14 13:46, Ross Scanlon wrote: Contact the DWG, get them to put a block on this user. Then you can do something about the edits. This is similar to previous vandalism in the Perth area by the likes of user Brendan_Cherry Cheers Ross On 16/02/14 13:23, Leon Kernan wrote: Problem is that some of these were tagged under construction where appropriate. He's just changing them to open and sometimes adding his own embellishments. On Sunday, February 16, 2014, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Some don't read their email How about marking the things he is adding - under construction - so they don't apear on maps Nameing them Reiff14 READ YOUR EMAIL! Adding Note with the same as name... Note I've not used his actual 'name' .. but I'd think that may get through? There is a twitter account with that name ... and a mapmy person with the same name too... On 16/02/2014 9:31 AM, Leon Kernan wrote: No, he seems to be putting back his fake roads again. Just as I finished fixing some of them from last time... Has anyone managed to contact him (I noticed several people in the talk-GB list were trying to) and is it time to get someone like the Data Working Group involved to deal with him? At the least, I believe every one of his edits in Australia is bogus. I've checked the following: He's reinstated the Shepparton bypass again. I can say with certainty that that road doesn't exist except in the road authorities future plans. There is also a Pacific Highway tunnel that's appeared in Sydney that I believe is still in the planning phase. The Adelaide northern connector is also in the planning phase (still not funded according to their website) and sure enough, he's made it complete. Look at this minor example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/261508781#map=19/-37.56324/143.93172 There is no justification for adding those ramps, which would be dangerous if they were actually built like that. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk'); wrote: There seem to be a lot of deletions in this and subsequent changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20555081 Are they valid? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Talk-au@openstreetmap.org'); https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Talk-au@openstreetmap.org'); https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Hi DWG (CC talk-au list), Below is a segment of a discussion on talk-au regarding edits made by http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/robbief14. He is unresponsive to messages sent via OSM and continues to add and remove content that has been established as incorrect. I am notifying you as users within the talk-au discussion have established some actions within his edits to be vandalism (with some rollbacks by users being re-added back in by this user). If you have any questions please contact the guys on the list and I apologise if you have been notified separately to my comms (no-one was nominated or volunteered so I just sent this message). Cheers, Jason On 16 February 2014 08:31, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: No, he seems to be putting back his fake roads again. Just as I finished fixing some of them from last time... Has anyone managed to contact him (I noticed several people in the talk-GB list were trying to) and is it time to get someone like the Data Working Group involved to deal with him? At the least, I believe every one of his edits in Australia is bogus. I've checked the following: He's reinstated the Shepparton bypass again. I can say with certainty that that road doesn't exist except in the road authorities future plans. There is also a Pacific Highway tunnel that's appeared in Sydney that I believe is still in the planning phase. The Adelaide northern connector is also in the planning phase (still not funded according to their website) and sure enough, he's made it complete. Look at this minor example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/261508781#map=19/-37.56324/143.93172 There is no justification for adding those ramps, which would be dangerous if they were actually built like that. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.ukwrote: There seem to be a lot of deletions in this and subsequent changesets: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20555081 Are they valid? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
What a mess. I've been trying to revert his edits with not much luck. There is a problem with relations that i can't get the revert tool to figure out. Can someone with a bit more experience with JOSM and reverter please take a look at changeset #20390092 ? On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: On 11 Feb 2014, at 2:03 am, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of edits upgrading unfinished motorways to constructed status. The same user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is: Here's another one, done about half an hour ago. I haven't reverted it at this stage. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20497896 'North South Motorway' in Adelaide. Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of edits upgrading unfinished motorways to constructed status. The same user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20479197 Are these valid (i.e. have these roads been completed ahead of schedule) or is there a problem here as well? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Shepparton bypass is still at the proposed stage according to Vicroads. http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/RoadProjects/PlanningAndProposals/Regional/GoulburnValleyHighwayShepparton.htm On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:03 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.ukwrote: Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of edits upgrading unfinished motorways to constructed status. The same user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20479197 Are these valid (i.e. have these roads been completed ahead of schedule) or is there a problem here as well? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
And going through his other edits, the Western Highway around Ballarat needs to be reverted to construction. Clearly he has no idea what he is doing here. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: Shepparton bypass is still at the proposed stage according to Vicroads. http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/RoadProjects/PlanningAndProposals/Regional/GoulburnValleyHighwayShepparton.htm On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:03 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.ukwrote: Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of edits upgrading unfinished motorways to constructed status. The same user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20479197 Are these valid (i.e. have these roads been completed ahead of schedule) or is there a problem here as well? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Sorry guys, another one. This change is just pure vandalism. He's created non-existent freeways and roads around Ballarat. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20425446 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: And going through his other edits, the Western Highway around Ballarat needs to be reverted to construction. Clearly he has no idea what he is doing here. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: Shepparton bypass is still at the proposed stage according to Vicroads. http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/RoadProjects/PlanningAndProposals/Regional/GoulburnValleyHighwayShepparton.htm On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:03 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of edits upgrading unfinished motorways to constructed status. The same user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20479197 Are these valid (i.e. have these roads been completed ahead of schedule) or is there a problem here as well? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Leon Kernan wrote: Sorry guys, another one. This change is just pure vandalism. He's created non-existent freeways and roads around Ballarat. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20425446 Has anyone got any idea about the NSW ones such as: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20409456 Would it be possible to put together a list of changes that need reverting (or is that just everything)? If someone more local than me wants to have a go at the reversions that would make sense (more likely to be able to resolve any edit clashes correctly), but if not I could have a go once the full list of changes to revert is known. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Hi all I am not of great help here as it is all out of Queensland, but has anyone written to ask them to justify their edits? It would at least make them know we are keeping an eye on them, and if it is purely sneaky vandalism, scare them off. Cheers, and good spotting! chtfn On Tue 11 Feb 2014 09:11:36 EST, SomeoneElse wrote: Leon Kernan wrote: Sorry guys, another one. This change is just pure vandalism. He's created non-existent freeways and roads around Ballarat. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20425446 Has anyone got any idea about the NSW ones such as: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20409456 Would it be possible to put together a list of changes that need reverting (or is that just everything)? If someone more local than me wants to have a go at the reversions that would make sense (more likely to be able to resolve any edit clashes correctly), but if not I could have a go once the full list of changes to revert is known. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Its touched on in the Vandalism Wiki but not referred to the DWG page but if there is not a suitable response then bringing it to the attention of the Data Working Group for user blocking is the next step I guess. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group#User_Blocks It suggest contacting them via the address at the bottom of that page. If no response is made and the edits continue I would suggest that be the next step (if it hasn't been suggested already) although if what has been done is an obvious vandalism attempt then I'd be referring the issue to the DWG. Cheers, Jason On 11 February 2014 09:43, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Stéphane Guillou wrote: but has anyone written to ask them to justify their edits? Yes - one of the Scottish guys who spotted the problems north of Edinburgh in the UK. I mentioned it here because I figured that not too many people would be suscribed to both talk-gb and talk-au. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
On 11 Feb 2014, at 2:03 am, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of edits upgrading unfinished motorways to constructed status. The same user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is: Here’s another one, done about half an hour ago. I haven’t reverted it at this stage. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20497896 ‘North South Motorway’ in Adelaide. Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
