Re: [talk-au] Next tagging clean up project

2022-10-10 Thread Phil Wyatt
Hi Graeme,

 

I reckon the vast majority of the ‘sheds’ are currently tagged 
building=fire_station.

 

I think I will start in Tassie, as I have been to many of the stations, and see 
what else crops before moving to any other states.

 

Thanks for all the thoughts folks

 

Cheers - Phil

 

From: Graeme Fitzpatrick  
Sent: Tuesday, 11 October 2022 9:21 AM
To: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>
Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Next tagging clean up project

 




 

On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 18:10, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com 
<mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The name of the station/brigade/* goes on the 'plot' not the building. 

I'm not certain of the operator tags - I think only on the amenity/plot not on 
the building .. ? 

 

Both of those are how I currently do it, except in the cases of joint use 
buildings, in which case that name etc goes on a node inside the building.

 

Question re building=fire_station though - do we still use that, when it's only 
a shed to look at?

 

Thanks

 

Graeme

 

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Re: [talk-au] Next tagging clean up project

2022-10-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 18:10, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The name of the station/brigade/* goes on the 'plot' not the building.
>
> I'm not certain of the operator tags - I think only on the amenity/plot
> not on the building .. ?
>

Both of those are how I currently do it, except in the cases of joint use
buildings, in which case that name etc goes on a node inside the building.

Question re building=fire_station though - do we still use that, when it's
only a shed to look at?

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [talk-au] Next tagging clean up project

2022-10-10 Thread Warin


On 10/10/22 10:40, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:




On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 19:14, Phil Wyatt  wrote:

Should it always be the case that the ‘plot’ on which the fire
station building resides is the ‘amenity’ and the ‘building’
should be separate within the plot? To me, its not 100% clear in
the wiki’s.


That was the way I thought it was supposed to work?



That is 'ideal'. However the 'plot' may not be obvious, in that case I 
use a node within the building. In NSW there is the DCS Base Map .. but 
even then some of them have no obvious bounds for the plot.



The name of the station/brigade/* goes on the 'plot' not the building.


I'm not certain of the operator tags - I think only on the amenity/plot 
not on the building .. ?
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Re: [talk-au] Next tagging clean up project

2022-10-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 19:14, Phil Wyatt  wrote:

>
>
> Should it always be the case that the ‘plot’ on which the fire station
> building resides is the ‘amenity’ and the ‘building’ should be separate
> within the plot? To me, its not 100% clear in the wiki’s.
>

That was the way I thought it was supposed to work?

I also notice that both the amenity grounds, & also the actual building are
both now rendered! (Same for Police, but still nothing for ambo's :-()

You also just reminded me to check info to confirm details on a local
station & I found:
https://www.data.qld.gov.au/dataset/rural-fire-stations/resource/e09d0d06-b13e-4e52-b82d-1ce0cf05927c.
May be worth while contacting them to see if we could use it?

Thanks

Graeme
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[talk-au] Next tagging clean up project

2022-10-09 Thread Phil Wyatt
Hi Folks,

 

I am looking for my next tagging clean-up project and wondered about amenity
and building tags for fire stations

 

amenity=fire_station -
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfire_station -
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1mAq

 

building=fire_station -
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dfire_station -
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1mAr

 

This is partly in response to an issue logged for the ID editor requesting a
preset for fire stations buildings.

 

https://github.com/openstreetmap/id-tagging-schema/pull/603

 

There is already an ID preset for 'Fire Station' that uses the
amenity=fire_station key/value but it did get me looking at the differences
and how its been applied in Australia. There is a clear mix of buildings and
amenity tagging on both station areas and buildings, and some with both
tags!

 

https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/australia-oceania/australia/tags/amenity=fire_s
tation#combinations

 

Should it always be the case that the 'plot' on which the fire station
building resides is the 'amenity' and the 'building' should be separate
within the plot? To me, its not 100% clear in the wiki's.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Cheers - Phil

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